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> Finally, GRIFFITH announced his intention to renounce his U.S. citizenship and began researching how to purchase citizenship from other countries. At first I

> Finally, GRIFFITH announced his intention to renounce his U.S. citizenship and began researching how to purchase citizenship from other countries. At first I thought maybe there was some monetary incentive to going to NK that might not be unsealed, but now I doubt it. It sounds like this guy was simply a crypto “believer”, with probably a bit of an ego. To these people the inability of governments to enforce control on crypto is one of the biggest features, and I’m sure he wanted to see that used in the real world.

arcticbull 7y ago
Yes indeed, the cold hard world order came crashing down on this dude. It's not much research to figure out how to buy a passport from somewhere else, the BBC has a nice write-up [1]. 1. Malta wants $1.15M for a full EU passport, and Bulgaria is another popular choice. 2. Sant Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia and Antigua and Barbuda will give you a passport for a donation of around $100K to charity or if you buy some real-estate around the half million mark. 3. The cheapest possible if you don't mind limited travel options is the Comoro Islands, $45K all-in. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/business-27674135 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-27674135
- dmix 7y ago
  > the cold hard world order came crashing down on this dude. He asked the state department before leaving, he knew what he was doing.
  - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
    > At no time did GRIFFITH obtain permission from OFAC to provide goods, services, or technology to the DPRK. I think in this case intent matters. If you ask permission to travel as a formality, but provide some goods and services while there then that’s very different things.
    - rodgerd 7y ago
      Intent to assist a regime obtain the currency it needs to continue running murder camps and the like?
      - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
        Maybe I phrased it wrong, but I think the intent was to help them circumvent the sanctions, despite that he may have asked the government for permission to visit NK.
- digianarchist 7y ago
  Cyprus after a year of residence. Canada after three.
StanislavPetrov 7y ago
>To these people the inability of governments to enforce control on crypto is one of the biggest features, and I’m sure he wanted to see that used in the real world. Not just the inability but also the lack of legitimate authority (emphasis on legitimate).
st1ck 7y ago
But it doesn't make any sense for a crypto-anarchist to help a government which doesn't let its subjects any basic freedoms.

arcticbull 7y ago

Yes indeed, the cold hard world order came crashing down on this dude. It's not much research to figure out how to buy a passport from somewhere else, the BBC has a nice write-up [1]. 1. Malta wants $1.15M for a full EU passport, and Bulgaria is another popular choice. 2. Sant Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia and Antigua and Barbuda will give you a passport for a donation of around $100K to charity or if you buy some real-estate around the half million mark. 3. The cheapest possible if you don't mind limited travel options is the Comoro Islands, $45K all-in. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/business-27674135 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-27674135

dmix 7y ago
> the cold hard world order came crashing down on this dude. He asked the state department before leaving, he knew what he was doing.
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
  > At no time did GRIFFITH obtain permission from OFAC to provide goods, services, or technology to the DPRK. I think in this case intent matters. If you ask permission to travel as a formality, but provide some goods and services while there then that’s very different things.
  - rodgerd 7y ago
    Intent to assist a regime obtain the currency it needs to continue running murder camps and the like?
    - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
      Maybe I phrased it wrong, but I think the intent was to help them circumvent the sanctions, despite that he may have asked the government for permission to visit NK.
digianarchist 7y ago
Cyprus after a year of residence. Canada after three.

StanislavPetrov 7y ago

>To these people the inability of governments to enforce control on crypto is one of the biggest features, and I’m sure he wanted to see that used in the real world. Not just the inability but also the lack of legitimate authority (emphasis on legitimate).

st1ck 7y ago

But it doesn't make any sense for a crypto-anarchist to help a government which doesn't let its subjects any basic freedoms.