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Ouch, this move and the plan to abandon the OSS part (discussed in the comments here) makes me uncomfortable about using Fathom. The option to run my own insta

Ouch, this move and the plan to abandon the OSS part (discussed in the comments here) makes me uncomfortable about using Fathom. The option to run my own instance if wanted was the main point for paying for their service. Because I don't want to maintain an instance of Fathom myself now, but maybe later. Now potentially giving up the OSS version makes me reconsider alternatives to Fathom. All these changes lately make me feel bad about their future and their grand promises on my users' privacy.

JackWritesCode 7y ago
Hey there, Appreciate the comment. Good or bad, anything that makes us think about things is welcomed, so thank you! 1) The OSS version isn't going anywhere (listen to our podcast from 10 days ago, we talk about it: https://fathom.transistor.fm/episodes/the-open-source-dilemma https://fathom.transistor.fm/episodes/the-open-source-dilemm...) 2) If you don't trust us, you shouldn't use our service. 3) Our fundamental guarantee regarding user data is that we don't sell it and we never will. We are already profitable and don't need to sell data.
- dylz 7y ago
  I do want to say I've been following the Github repo for a while now, and every time I notice a new update I get very excited, then disappointed because it's just a one line documentation change, haha. Giving it a listen now though, headphones just finished charging.
  - JackWritesCode 7y ago
    Awesome. And yeah, we haven't made many updates to the codebase, sorry! Getting Fathom V2 out the door was priority number 1, as we are not currently full time on Fathom. The plan is to grow Fathom to support us near full time so we can spend more time on things. I'd also like to learn Go. We both have full time jobs outside of this. There will ALWAYS be an OS version. We don't know how the future will look but we know we have to keep a free privacy-focused analytics option available. It's the right thing to do.
jamil7 7y ago
I also really liked the open source version for side projects, maybe a community fork could exist to fill the gap?
- JackWritesCode 7y ago
  It totally could! I would suggest listening to https://fathom.transistor.fm/episodes/the-open-source-dilemma https://fathom.transistor.fm/episodes/the-open-source-dilemm... too (published 10 days ago) as that'll give insight into our plans.
- tedivm 7y ago
  The biggest problem with the open source version is that it's written in Go and there aren't that many people with both the skills and the time to maintain it, let alone expand it. It might be easier for a group of people to get together and build out a privacy centric open source project from scratch (something I'd be interested in).
  - JackWritesCode 7y ago
    Fantastic idea! Don't wait for someone to start it, start it yourself! We're still going to be updating the OS version of Fathom but I 100% support anybody creating another privacy-focused analytics platform. Additional alternatives to Google Analytics are great! Good luck :)

JackWritesCode 7y ago

Hey there, Appreciate the comment. Good or bad, anything that makes us think about things is welcomed, so thank you! 1) The OSS version isn't going anywhere (listen to our podcast from 10 days ago, we talk about it: https://fathom.transistor.fm/episodes/the-open-source-dilemma https://fathom.transistor.fm/episodes/the-open-source-dilemm...) 2) If you don't trust us, you shouldn't use our service. 3) Our fundamental guarantee regarding user data is that we don't sell it and we never will. We are already profitable and don't need to sell data.

dylz 7y ago
I do want to say I've been following the Github repo for a while now, and every time I notice a new update I get very excited, then disappointed because it's just a one line documentation change, haha. Giving it a listen now though, headphones just finished charging.
- JackWritesCode 7y ago
  Awesome. And yeah, we haven't made many updates to the codebase, sorry! Getting Fathom V2 out the door was priority number 1, as we are not currently full time on Fathom. The plan is to grow Fathom to support us near full time so we can spend more time on things. I'd also like to learn Go. We both have full time jobs outside of this. There will ALWAYS be an OS version. We don't know how the future will look but we know we have to keep a free privacy-focused analytics option available. It's the right thing to do.

jamil7 7y ago

I also really liked the open source version for side projects, maybe a community fork could exist to fill the gap?

JackWritesCode 7y ago
It totally could! I would suggest listening to https://fathom.transistor.fm/episodes/the-open-source-dilemma https://fathom.transistor.fm/episodes/the-open-source-dilemm... too (published 10 days ago) as that'll give insight into our plans.
tedivm 7y ago
The biggest problem with the open source version is that it's written in Go and there aren't that many people with both the skills and the time to maintain it, let alone expand it. It might be easier for a group of people to get together and build out a privacy centric open source project from scratch (something I'd be interested in).
- JackWritesCode 7y ago
  Fantastic idea! Don't wait for someone to start it, start it yourself! We're still going to be updating the OS version of Fathom but I 100% support anybody creating another privacy-focused analytics platform. Additional alternatives to Google Analytics are great! Good luck :)