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It does remind slightly me of Amundsen's approach on his south pole expedition of killing dogs and feeding them to the men and the other dogs. Lord Curzon was
by arethuza 7y ago
It does remind slightly me of Amundsen's approach on his south pole expedition of killing dogs and feeding them to the men and the other dogs.
Lord Curzon was rather rude to him about it.
- elygre 7y agoBut to be blunt: who was Lord Curzon?
- arethuza 7y agoThis explains it: https://history.blog.gov.uk/2018/06/06/a-very-british-catastrophe-captain-robert-falcon-scotts-final-journey/ https://history.blog.gov.uk/2018/06/06/a-very-british-catast...
- kubanczyk 7y agoSome British official. Probably best known as a namesake for the current eastern border of Poland (known as Curzon's line), of which he wasn't an architect or proponent.
- zipwitch 7y agoIn popular culture "Curzon" is probably most familiar to StarTrek:DS9 fans as Curzon Dax, the predecessor of the Jadzia Dax. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Curzon_Dax https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Curzon_Dax (The character - a diplomat - was very clearly inspired by Lord Curzon.)
- gerikson 7y agoThe British ideal of the noble defeat being better than the pragmatic victory is rather strange.
- golergka 7y agoAlmost any custom which seems strange when you take one encounter turns out to be perfectly reasonable when you take it in a context of repeated encounters with the same vis-a-vis. Having reputation for being noble, even in defeat, can have unique advantages.
- gerikson 7y agoBoth Scott and Gordon died at arguably the peak of British global power. Such a power can afford to venerate losers. In a previous time, when Britain's place in the world stage was not as assured, it could be less lenient to them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byng
- friendlybus 7y agoPragmatic victory is for the upper classes.