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I disagree. I know very well the difference between driving blind drunk and carelessly and possibly very young ("I drive great when I'm drunk") and driving extr

by Udik 7y ago

I disagree. I know very well the difference between driving blind drunk and carelessly and possibly very young ("I drive great when I'm drunk") and driving extremely carefully, basically never going beyond 40km/h. And of course what the law defines is an alcohol limit, which is probably very conservative: it cannot define the meaning of the word "drunk". I think every opinion and decision must be challenged, otherwise, when only one side of the debate has legitimacy, you end up with entirely skewed decisions. And since drunk driving does kill people, and nobody dared to defend drinkers, there has been a lack of balance in the initiatives against it. So I'm sacrificing my karma for the sake of some balance :)

asaddhamani 7y ago
> I go very slow, drive very carefully on roads that I know by heart, and hadn't had a single accident in twenty years. Said every drunk driver, ever. I have no respect for drunk drivers. You don't care about your life, that's on you. But you are putting the lives of other people in serious jeopardy by doing this. Someone could end up having their life destroyed, or maybe even dying because of your shitty actions. > And since drunk driving does kill people, and nobody dared to defend drinkers, there has been a lack of balance in the initiatives against it. There is a reason behind this. When you are drunk, you have lowered inhibitions, poor judgement, more (often unwarranted, like in your previous post) self confidence, vision problems, poor hand-eye coordination, drowsiness, the list goes on. You should not in any case be driving while drunk, and you do have to be daring to defend drunk driving. I am happy there has been a lack of balance in that regard. If it was just you driving on am empty field or track where the only person you could harm is yourself, I'd have no problem with it. But you are putting others at risk, and that's where I draw the line.
- Freak_NL 7y ago
  And it's not just the actions you take when driving inebriated yourself. By taking the 'I never had an accident, I just drive slowly and surely' stance, you implicitly tell others that this is fine, and that one or two drinks don't matter (or three, or four), as long as you take it slow and steady, and really, the law is too strict anyway. People are influenced by others, younger drivers in particular. You are not only responsible for your own actions, but also for the message you send to others.
ajdlinux 7y ago
In Australia, it's referred to as drink driving rather than drunk driving. Because it's about impairment of driving ability (as approximated through more objective measures like BAC), not "drunkenness".

by Udik 7y ago

asaddhamani 7y ago

> I go very slow, drive very carefully on roads that I know by heart, and hadn't had a single accident in twenty years. Said every drunk driver, ever. I have no respect for drunk drivers. You don't care about your life, that's on you. But you are putting the lives of other people in serious jeopardy by doing this. Someone could end up having their life destroyed, or maybe even dying because of your shitty actions. > And since drunk driving does kill people, and nobody dared to defend drinkers, there has been a lack of balance in the initiatives against it. There is a reason behind this. When you are drunk, you have lowered inhibitions, poor judgement, more (often unwarranted, like in your previous post) self confidence, vision problems, poor hand-eye coordination, drowsiness, the list goes on. You should not in any case be driving while drunk, and you do have to be daring to defend drunk driving. I am happy there has been a lack of balance in that regard. If it was just you driving on am empty field or track where the only person you could harm is yourself, I'd have no problem with it. But you are putting others at risk, and that's where I draw the line.

Freak_NL 7y ago
And it's not just the actions you take when driving inebriated yourself. By taking the 'I never had an accident, I just drive slowly and surely' stance, you implicitly tell others that this is fine, and that one or two drinks don't matter (or three, or four), as long as you take it slow and steady, and really, the law is too strict anyway. People are influenced by others, younger drivers in particular. You are not only responsible for your own actions, but also for the message you send to others.

ajdlinux 7y ago

In Australia, it's referred to as drink driving rather than drunk driving. Because it's about impairment of driving ability (as approximated through more objective measures like BAC), not "drunkenness".