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When the same party has won every single election since 1959, you have to wonder if they mean anything.

Aperocky 7y ago
If a population vote the same party in every election cycle, does that mean the elections are pointless? Or are you suggesting the elections are marred by fraud? It has to be one of these two.
- satori99 7y ago
  It is possible that SK PAP politicians are just damn good at their jobs -- The modern history of Singapore does seem to suggest this. But it's also possible that no viable oppositions are allowed to organize effectively enough to compete fairly. My personal yardstick for judging a healthy and mature democracy is counting how many times political power has changed hands without violence -- Singapore is yet to score after 60 years.
  - marcthe12 7y ago
    It's a mix. PAP are quite competent and has improved lifes greatly. On the hand there is the GRC concept that screw opposition. GRC are constitutcies which are worth multiple parliament seats. Only one was won by opposition and that was by a razor thin margin. GRC also make gerymendering easier and less obvious.
  - ValentineC 7y ago
    > But it's also possible that no viable oppositions are allowed to organize effectively enough to compete fairly. The odds are stacked against the opposition — for some reason, elected Members of Parliament are required to manage their individual town councils as well. The opposition that won a group constituency recently got a lawsuit slapped against them for "mismanagement" [1]. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/dgbe25/ahtc_case_workers_party_leaders_put_political/ https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/dgbe25/ahtc_case...
- boomboomsubban 7y ago
  There is a third option, that the election system is designed to allow only the desired result. For example, only two of the five possible Singapore Presidential elections have been contested.
  - ValentineC 7y ago
    > There is a third option, that the election system is designed to allow only the desired result. For example, only two of the five possible Singapore Presidential elections have been contested. Adding on: this is because the PAP in Singapore controls more than two-thirds of parliament [1], and have been able to push through constitutional changes without much consultation [2]. I think the increase in the private-sector requirement for candidates of our presidency (overtly disqualifying Tan Cheng Bock, a former PAP MP who was a candidate for the presidential elections, and is now the leader of an opposition party) slipped past many of our political critics until it was too late; a lot of uproar was focused on the elections being reserved for people from a specific ethnic group [3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Parliament_of_Singapore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Parliament_of_Singapore [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Singapore#Amendment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Singapore#Amen... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_elections_in_Singapore#Qualifications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_elections_in_Sing...

If a population vote the same party in every election cycle, does that mean the elections are pointless? Or are you suggesting the elections are marred by fraud? It has to be one of these two.

satori99 7y ago
It is possible that SK PAP politicians are just damn good at their jobs -- The modern history of Singapore does seem to suggest this. But it's also possible that no viable oppositions are allowed to organize effectively enough to compete fairly. My personal yardstick for judging a healthy and mature democracy is counting how many times political power has changed hands without violence -- Singapore is yet to score after 60 years.
- marcthe12 7y ago
  It's a mix. PAP are quite competent and has improved lifes greatly. On the hand there is the GRC concept that screw opposition. GRC are constitutcies which are worth multiple parliament seats. Only one was won by opposition and that was by a razor thin margin. GRC also make gerymendering easier and less obvious.
- ValentineC 7y ago
  > But it's also possible that no viable oppositions are allowed to organize effectively enough to compete fairly. The odds are stacked against the opposition — for some reason, elected Members of Parliament are required to manage their individual town councils as well. The opposition that won a group constituency recently got a lawsuit slapped against them for "mismanagement" [1]. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/dgbe25/ahtc_case_workers_party_leaders_put_political/ https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/dgbe25/ahtc_case...
boomboomsubban 7y ago
There is a third option, that the election system is designed to allow only the desired result. For example, only two of the five possible Singapore Presidential elections have been contested.
- ValentineC 7y ago
  > There is a third option, that the election system is designed to allow only the desired result. For example, only two of the five possible Singapore Presidential elections have been contested. Adding on: this is because the PAP in Singapore controls more than two-thirds of parliament [1], and have been able to push through constitutional changes without much consultation [2]. I think the increase in the private-sector requirement for candidates of our presidency (overtly disqualifying Tan Cheng Bock, a former PAP MP who was a candidate for the presidential elections, and is now the leader of an opposition party) slipped past many of our political critics until it was too late; a lot of uproar was focused on the elections being reserved for people from a specific ethnic group [3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Parliament_of_Singapore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Parliament_of_Singapore [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Singapore#Amendment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Singapore#Amen... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_elections_in_Singapore#Qualifications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_elections_in_Sing...