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I imagine this is for your personal car. A company car would probably not have this. Though, I would hope that companies that are paying you to specifically dri

I imagine this is for your personal car. A company car would probably not have this. Though, I would hope that companies that are paying you to specifically drive would skip the 2x DUI people.

walrus01 7y ago
it seems that a workaround for this for a somewhat wealthy or privileged repeat drunk driver would be to form a corporation, buy a vehicle, put some company stickers on the car, get company vehicle insurance. I'm sure you could pay a web developer a few hundred bucks to create a plausible looking company web page, register domain for it, set up email, have a whole set of letterheads for communicating with the relevant government authorities.
- throwaway40324 7y ago
  This is very clever and made me laugh, but really, someone with two drunk driving offenses should just take the humble, honest, simpler path of being sober and blowing in the breath machine.
- obituary_latte 7y ago
  Except, if I’m reading correctly, the restriction is on the offenders license and they are prohibited from driving any vehicle that does not have the lockout device.
fredophile 7y ago
I think it's a restriction on your license and applies to any car you drive. The company car won't have the device so the driver would not be able to legally drive it. This would be similar to how some locations make you do a road test with a standard transmission or you are only allowed to drive an automatic.
Tharkun 7y ago
Might not be a bad standard feature. We used to think seatbelts were stupid...
gexla 7y ago
What about gig work, such as driving an Uber?
peteretep 7y ago
> I imagine this is for your personal car The article states that you're not allowed to operate a car without one installed.
- 6nf 7y ago
  You don't want repeat offenders of drink driving getting into professional driving jobs though right?
  - ShorsHammer 7y ago
    I've done some pretty stupid shit carwise in my youth and lost a few licenses along the way. Perhaps extrapolate your statement out to other forms of justice meted out by society and ask if you'd say the same about those crimes? I'd certainly hope I could get a driving job today if worse came to worse. I did my time and certainly paid my dues. Technically it's been long enough that my crimes are wiped off the record and I can legally not mention them to workplaces/authorities. It's very easy to demand heavy lifetime justice for everyone you don't sympathise with, a lot harder to make it fair and equitable to the longterm benefit of a society. I honestly don't understand how the US treats their convicted criminals, it's basically a life sentence in many respects.
    - 6nf 7y ago
      I guess soon it wont matter. When robots take over most driving jobs...
    - tehwebguy 7y ago
      You can drive drunk, get caught, get prosecuted and still get another chance. Just can’t do it twice, I think that’s fair.
      - ShorsHammer 7y ago
        > Just can’t do it twice As in you can't ever drive again afterwards? I'm fairly honest here about my own failures in life, by this judgement do you think I should never be able to drive a car ever again? Most of my life has been living in places with absolutely no public transport, how exactly do I go to work as a middle aged person having being deemed unworthy of 60 years of no license because of being a young idiot once upon a time? Please go down this path and say what should happen

I imagine this is for your personal car. A company car would probably not have this. Though, I would hope that companies that are paying you to specifically drive would skip the 2x DUI people.

walrus01 7y ago

it seems that a workaround for this for a somewhat wealthy or privileged repeat drunk driver would be to form a corporation, buy a vehicle, put some company stickers on the car, get company vehicle insurance. I'm sure you could pay a web developer a few hundred bucks to create a plausible looking company web page, register domain for it, set up email, have a whole set of letterheads for communicating with the relevant government authorities.

throwaway40324 7y ago
This is very clever and made me laugh, but really, someone with two drunk driving offenses should just take the humble, honest, simpler path of being sober and blowing in the breath machine.
obituary_latte 7y ago
Except, if I’m reading correctly, the restriction is on the offenders license and they are prohibited from driving any vehicle that does not have the lockout device.

fredophile 7y ago

I think it's a restriction on your license and applies to any car you drive. The company car won't have the device so the driver would not be able to legally drive it. This would be similar to how some locations make you do a road test with a standard transmission or you are only allowed to drive an automatic.

Tharkun 7y ago

Might not be a bad standard feature. We used to think seatbelts were stupid...

gexla 7y ago

What about gig work, such as driving an Uber?

peteretep 7y ago

> I imagine this is for your personal car The article states that you're not allowed to operate a car without one installed.

6nf 7y ago
You don't want repeat offenders of drink driving getting into professional driving jobs though right?
- ShorsHammer 7y ago
  I've done some pretty stupid shit carwise in my youth and lost a few licenses along the way. Perhaps extrapolate your statement out to other forms of justice meted out by society and ask if you'd say the same about those crimes? I'd certainly hope I could get a driving job today if worse came to worse. I did my time and certainly paid my dues. Technically it's been long enough that my crimes are wiped off the record and I can legally not mention them to workplaces/authorities. It's very easy to demand heavy lifetime justice for everyone you don't sympathise with, a lot harder to make it fair and equitable to the longterm benefit of a society. I honestly don't understand how the US treats their convicted criminals, it's basically a life sentence in many respects.
  - 6nf 7y ago
    I guess soon it wont matter. When robots take over most driving jobs...
  - tehwebguy 7y ago
    You can drive drunk, get caught, get prosecuted and still get another chance. Just can’t do it twice, I think that’s fair.
    - ShorsHammer 7y ago
      > Just can’t do it twice As in you can't ever drive again afterwards? I'm fairly honest here about my own failures in life, by this judgement do you think I should never be able to drive a car ever again? Most of my life has been living in places with absolutely no public transport, how exactly do I go to work as a middle aged person having being deemed unworthy of 60 years of no license because of being a young idiot once upon a time? Please go down this path and say what should happen