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I recently bought an LG OLED as well. I never connected it to my network and never will. It was a dark pattern during setup. The options were to connect vi

I recently bought an LG OLED as well. I never connected it to my network and never will. It was a dark pattern during setup. The options were to connect via LAN or WIFI, and only by scrolling into "nothing" did a skip option appear. This ImO is the only option and even then I bet it's trying to exhilarate data by like trying to connect to a phone or high frequency audio or something.

xwdv 7y ago
How do you install firmware updates??
- kspacewalk2 7y ago
  I bought a dumb tv in 2013 that I still use just fine without any firmware updates. It's a screen, it needs no updates.
  - o-__-o 7y ago
    I plugged in my pre-all-devices-spy 10 year old dumb tv to the network for the first time and now it hounds me for firmware updates.... I always reject because I don’t want it to learn how to spy on me. Pretty sure my firetv phones my hdmi content home
    - dghughes 7y ago
      Can't you set the onboard clock back a few years to fool it?
- defen 7y ago
  If it's not on the network why would you need firmware updates? (serious question)
  - newnewpdro 7y ago
    Bugs affecting its base functionality?
    - type0 7y ago
      If it has serious bugs out of the box, just return the damn thing and get a different version.
      - newnewpdro 7y ago
        Well maybe you don't discover them until a year later when you connected some new peripheral on a previously unused input to discover it's unusable but there's a fix for the known problem. Is it really all that difficult to envision a legitimate need for bugfixes on a "smart tv" containing so much software? These things are as much a computer as they are a display. And modern software development practices have veered far into the direction of "ship yesterday, finish tomorrow with updates."
    - Slartie 7y ago
      It's not that hard to display whatever is coming in on HDMI-1. They usually get that working correctly in whatever firmware version the TV is shipped with, and I don't need more than that. They can even fuck up audio, as that goes through a proper receiver and external speakers anyway and the TV is thus constantly set to zero volume.
    - kingosticks 7y ago
      Hdmi-cec is a classic. The implementation on many TVs is riddled with bugs.
      - Slartie 7y ago
        Gets disabled by me immediately. I use a well-configured Logitech Harmony remote to orchestrate the various devices, hence no need for HDMI-CEC, which it's implemented differently by anyone anyway (and they mostly don't even consider that "bugs").
- opencl 7y ago
  Most of them let you download the firmware updates on a computer and load them on a USB flash drive. That's how I've updated my Samsung that I never connect to the network.
marcusjt 7y ago
"exhilarate" > "exfiltrate"
- tekstar 7y ago
  Autocorrect got me :(
beezle 7y ago
I've got an LG OLED and have had regular LG 'smart' sets before that. I turned off the LG IP channels and other similar settings. The only installed apps are for Amazon Prime, YoutubeTV and their web browser. I have it on its own wifi ap. I get very few notifications. Obviously, when app or firmware updates are available. I also get a small and brief notification when they add a new ip channel to their lineup. I get no ads or anything like that. I've not run a sniffer to see what it phones home with beyond info for version checks.

xwdv 7y ago

How do you install firmware updates??

kspacewalk2 7y ago
I bought a dumb tv in 2013 that I still use just fine without any firmware updates. It's a screen, it needs no updates.
- o-__-o 7y ago
  I plugged in my pre-all-devices-spy 10 year old dumb tv to the network for the first time and now it hounds me for firmware updates.... I always reject because I don’t want it to learn how to spy on me. Pretty sure my firetv phones my hdmi content home
  - dghughes 7y ago
    Can't you set the onboard clock back a few years to fool it?
defen 7y ago
If it's not on the network why would you need firmware updates? (serious question)
- newnewpdro 7y ago
  Bugs affecting its base functionality?
  - type0 7y ago
    If it has serious bugs out of the box, just return the damn thing and get a different version.
    - newnewpdro 7y ago
      Well maybe you don't discover them until a year later when you connected some new peripheral on a previously unused input to discover it's unusable but there's a fix for the known problem. Is it really all that difficult to envision a legitimate need for bugfixes on a "smart tv" containing so much software? These things are as much a computer as they are a display. And modern software development practices have veered far into the direction of "ship yesterday, finish tomorrow with updates."
  - Slartie 7y ago
    It's not that hard to display whatever is coming in on HDMI-1. They usually get that working correctly in whatever firmware version the TV is shipped with, and I don't need more than that. They can even fuck up audio, as that goes through a proper receiver and external speakers anyway and the TV is thus constantly set to zero volume.
  - kingosticks 7y ago
    Hdmi-cec is a classic. The implementation on many TVs is riddled with bugs.
    - Slartie 7y ago
      Gets disabled by me immediately. I use a well-configured Logitech Harmony remote to orchestrate the various devices, hence no need for HDMI-CEC, which it's implemented differently by anyone anyway (and they mostly don't even consider that "bugs").
opencl 7y ago
Most of them let you download the firmware updates on a computer and load them on a USB flash drive. That's how I've updated my Samsung that I never connect to the network.

marcusjt 7y ago

"exhilarate" > "exfiltrate"

tekstar 7y ago
Autocorrect got me :(

beezle 7y ago

I've got an LG OLED and have had regular LG 'smart' sets before that. I turned off the LG IP channels and other similar settings. The only installed apps are for Amazon Prime, YoutubeTV and their web browser. I have it on its own wifi ap. I get very few notifications. Obviously, when app or firmware updates are available. I also get a small and brief notification when they add a new ip channel to their lineup. I get no ads or anything like that. I've not run a sniffer to see what it phones home with beyond info for version checks.