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If the price were 20% less it would demand some more eyeballs. When I saw the price I assumed they were trying to position a premium product. I think this is a
by cartoonworld 7y ago
If the price were 20% less it would demand some more eyeballs.
When I saw the price I assumed they were trying to position a premium product. I think this is a little bit of a mistake given that in the market of handsets, Apple owns the "premium" devices, and maybe samsung counts as #2? Nobody is crossing that Rubicon.
$700 isn't really bad but I don't like the look of it. Maybe if they can make this thing for 6 or 7 years. People who are worried about this have been aware of Essential phones which aren't the same, but end users aren't shopping these Freedom characteristics.
I predict another few years of nobody batting an eye to these devices. Great shame.
- macspoofing 7y ago>When I saw the price I assumed they were trying to position a premium product. They are. They are building a product that let's you do anything you want on the device. Honestly, the phone should be priced at a premium level because it will appeal to a demographic that will pay more for a phone that lets them break free from the closed ecosystems of Android/Apple. It also gives them extra cash to re-invest in the company and doesn't require them scaling their manufacturing just yet.
- Redoubts 7y ago> They are. They are building a product that let's you do anything you want on the device. Completely orthogonal to “premium”
- admax88q 7y agoI mean it is essentially a premium feature in the current market of cheap locked down shit.
- ghostpepper 7y agoIsn't the most expensive phone you can buy also the most locked down phone you can buy, the iPhone 11?
- PudgePacket 7y agoPremium and expensive aren't the same thing, though often go hand in hand :)
- icebraining 7y agoWhat can you do with the Librem that you can't with a Moto G?
- ptx 7y agoRun a modern mainline kernel (and future mainline kernels) without losing compatibility with the drivers for most of the hardware.
- ac29 7y agoAt least at the moment Librem5 still requires non-upstreamed drivers: "The kernel will be the 5.3 mainline kernel with some additional drivers" [0] They do at least appear to be actively developing those drivers publicly for eventual submission upstream, though: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/linux-next/activity https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/linux-next/activity [0] https://developer.puri.sm/Librem5/Software_Reference.html https://developer.puri.sm/Librem5/Software_Reference.html
- criddell 7y agoOk, but what does that let you do that you couldn't otherwise? Nobody buys a phone for the operating system, it's for the hardware and the software that runs on top of the OS.
- ptx 7y agoIt lets you continue safely using your phone after a year or two, because it won't be stuck on outdated software full of unpatched security vulnerabilities.
- sbuk 7y agoApple offer that. I accept the preference and arguments for an open system etc and the distrust of a global corp., but the support lifespan of an iOS device has more recently been ~5 years.
- azdle 7y ago
- ummonk 7y agoThey should have added significant storage and a top notch camera and actually made it a $1000 premium product.
- jefftk 7y ago> a top notch camera The advances in camera tech these days are primarily software, which is not open source. We're talking dozens of person-years minimum to replicate what Apple, Google, Samsung, etc do in software.