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Distributed thought policing can be just as effective in enforcing error as the centralized variety. In the west, there are many true things that one cannot say

Distributed thought policing can be just as effective in enforcing error as the centralized variety. In the west, there are many true things that one cannot say: who can say how much damage these prohibitions have done to our decision making? As for the Soviets: their physics, chemistry, and mathematics education was very good. It was only in the softer academic fields like history, biology, and psychology that you saw widespread nonsense. These fields are the ones with direct political implications. Today, we struggle with these fields in much the same way for much the same reason: see the replication crisis in psychology.

pjc50 7y ago
> In the west, there are many true things that one cannot say sigh such as? And what repercussions do you receive for saying them? I see a lot of people with books, TV interviews, and academic positions complaining about being "silenced" despite still being very audible. > we struggle with these fields in much the same way for much the same reason Evolutionary psychology may be the worst example of this. Or large areas of economics. Or the political implications of climate science.
- xorand 7y ago
  > I see a lot of people with books, TV interviews, and academic positions complaining about being "silenced" despite still being very audible. such as? And how can you complain about opinions which you can't find easily just by looking at those which you can?
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- nyolfen 7y ago
  > Evolutionary psychology may be the worst example of this. Or large areas of economics. Or the political implications of climate science. social psychology was specifically singled out by the replication crisis for having something like 2/3 of its published papers failing to replicate
- teddyh 7y ago
  > > In the west, there are many true things that one cannot say > sigh such as? Be aware that you are, in effect, asking for people to actually step in the bear trap in order to prove to you that it’s dangerous. Even pg’s essay What You Can’t Say (well known around here) didn’t mention any specific things, for obvious reasons.
Jeff_Brown 7y ago
Might you be confusing state-enforced controlled speech with simply not being well received by the people you're speaking to?
- 8note 7y ago
  my reading is that they consider the two to have very similar effects. conflating the two is the point, not a confusion
8note 7y ago
the replication crisis seems like the opposite problem? it's too easy to say things, therefore, there's too much noise to get anything valuable. it could just be that the softer academic fields are just harder to study, unrelated to what society we try them in.

pjc50 7y ago

> In the west, there are many true things that one cannot say sigh such as? And what repercussions do you receive for saying them? I see a lot of people with books, TV interviews, and academic positions complaining about being "silenced" despite still being very audible. > we struggle with these fields in much the same way for much the same reason Evolutionary psychology may be the worst example of this. Or large areas of economics. Or the political implications of climate science.

xorand 7y ago
> I see a lot of people with books, TV interviews, and academic positions complaining about being "silenced" despite still being very audible. such as? And how can you complain about opinions which you can't find easily just by looking at those which you can?
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nyolfen 7y ago
> Evolutionary psychology may be the worst example of this. Or large areas of economics. Or the political implications of climate science. social psychology was specifically singled out by the replication crisis for having something like 2/3 of its published papers failing to replicate
teddyh 7y ago
> > In the west, there are many true things that one cannot say > sigh such as? Be aware that you are, in effect, asking for people to actually step in the bear trap in order to prove to you that it’s dangerous. Even pg’s essay What You Can’t Say (well known around here) didn’t mention any specific things, for obvious reasons.

Jeff_Brown 7y ago

Might you be confusing state-enforced controlled speech with simply not being well received by the people you're speaking to?

8note 7y ago
my reading is that they consider the two to have very similar effects. conflating the two is the point, not a confusion

8note 7y ago

the replication crisis seems like the opposite problem? it's too easy to say things, therefore, there's too much noise to get anything valuable. it could just be that the softer academic fields are just harder to study, unrelated to what society we try them in.