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Do you have a reference about DDG using Bing? It's not mentioned on their site, or their wikipedia entry, or anywhere else I could find, and the results were d

Do you have a reference about DDG using Bing? It's not mentioned on their site, or their wikipedia entry, or anywhere else I could find, and the results were different when I tried a few searches in them both just now. Are they "Using Bing" in the same sense they "Use Wikipedia" to put info boxes on the results page sometimes?

thephyber 7y ago
DDG does use Bing for _some_ of their search results, but it's far from just a reskin.
- mda 7y ago
  _most_ of their search results. They don't give a breakdown.
- unicornporn 7y ago
  DDG uses Bing, Yahoo! and Yandex for non bang searches[1]. As of October 2019, Yahoo! Search is once again “powered by Bing”[2]. To me, results are as crap as Bing's. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/6uaibg/comment/dls6xqr https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/6uaibg/comment/... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Search https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Search
  - notus 7y ago
    Bing is really good for porn for some reason
  - godelski 7y ago
    "Uses" is a weird word here. Because some people are suggesting that DDG is a reskin of Bing. But if we look at what DDG says[0], they talk about it the same way they talk about Stack Overflow. No one is crazy enough to say that DDG is a reskin of SO. What they are actually saying is that they are aggregating results. Which I don't understand why that would be a bad thing. [0] https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/
    - Kiro 7y ago
      Money quoute right here: "We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Verizon Media (formerly Yahoo) and Bing." SO and the other 400 sources are only used for instant boxes and other widgets. The real organic search results are all from Bing.
      - godelski 7y ago
        Full quote > In fact, DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Verizon Media (formerly Yahoo) and Bing. I'm not sure where you're getting > The real organic search results are all from Bing. That paragraph __DOES NOT__ say that
        Kiro 7y ago
        The paragraph clearly says that. > more traditional links in the search results It's super obvious to me what that refers to - the actual search results. The rest is just fluff.
  - diffeomorphism 7y ago
    Uses as some of their main sources: > In fact, DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Verizon Media (formerly Yahoo) and Bing. https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/ The results are very similar but not identical to using yahoo or bing.
- kats 7y ago
  I may be wrong, but I read before on HN than bing is used for 99% of the search results.
ac29 7y ago
"We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Verizon Media (formerly Yahoo) and Bing" https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/
- godelski 7y ago
  That doesn't suggest anything that the OP is saying. Google does similar things. We wouldn't say that searching DDG is like searching Stack Overflow. Or it is like searching Yelp.
  - Thorrez 7y ago
    There's a difference between getting results from sites that contain content (Wikipedia, Stack Overflow, Yelp) and sites that are pure search engines (Bing).
    - godelski 7y ago
      There's also a difference between reskinning a search engine and aggregating other engines' results with your own.
      - Thorrez 7y ago
        Sure, and AFAIK Google does neither of those, so it would be wrong to say "Google does similar things".
        godelski 7y ago
        > AFAIK Google does neither of those > it would be wrong to say "Google does similar things" This does not follow. It also isn't what I was suggesting, but it would surprise me if Google didn't look at what Bing and Yahoo were doing (and DDG).

thephyber 7y ago

DDG does use Bing for _some_ of their search results, but it's far from just a reskin.

mda 7y ago
_most_ of their search results. They don't give a breakdown.
unicornporn 7y ago
DDG uses Bing, Yahoo! and Yandex for non bang searches[1]. As of October 2019, Yahoo! Search is once again “powered by Bing”[2]. To me, results are as crap as Bing's. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/6uaibg/comment/dls6xqr https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/6uaibg/comment/... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Search https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Search
- notus 7y ago
  Bing is really good for porn for some reason
- godelski 7y ago
  "Uses" is a weird word here. Because some people are suggesting that DDG is a reskin of Bing. But if we look at what DDG says[0], they talk about it the same way they talk about Stack Overflow. No one is crazy enough to say that DDG is a reskin of SO. What they are actually saying is that they are aggregating results. Which I don't understand why that would be a bad thing. [0] https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/
  - Kiro 7y ago
    Money quoute right here: "We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Verizon Media (formerly Yahoo) and Bing." SO and the other 400 sources are only used for instant boxes and other widgets. The real organic search results are all from Bing.
    - godelski 7y ago
      Full quote > In fact, DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Verizon Media (formerly Yahoo) and Bing. I'm not sure where you're getting > The real organic search results are all from Bing. That paragraph __DOES NOT__ say that
      - Kiro 7y ago
        The paragraph clearly says that. > more traditional links in the search results It's super obvious to me what that refers to - the actual search results. The rest is just fluff.
- diffeomorphism 7y ago
  Uses as some of their main sources: > In fact, DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Verizon Media (formerly Yahoo) and Bing. https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/ The results are very similar but not identical to using yahoo or bing.
kats 7y ago
I may be wrong, but I read before on HN than bing is used for 99% of the search results.

ac29 7y ago

"We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Verizon Media (formerly Yahoo) and Bing" https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/

godelski 7y ago
That doesn't suggest anything that the OP is saying. Google does similar things. We wouldn't say that searching DDG is like searching Stack Overflow. Or it is like searching Yelp.
- Thorrez 7y ago
  There's a difference between getting results from sites that contain content (Wikipedia, Stack Overflow, Yelp) and sites that are pure search engines (Bing).
  - godelski 7y ago
    There's also a difference between reskinning a search engine and aggregating other engines' results with your own.
    - Thorrez 7y ago
      Sure, and AFAIK Google does neither of those, so it would be wrong to say "Google does similar things".
      - godelski 7y ago
        > AFAIK Google does neither of those > it would be wrong to say "Google does similar things" This does not follow. It also isn't what I was suggesting, but it would surprise me if Google didn't look at what Bing and Yahoo were doing (and DDG).