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Please do not travel, either. Togetherness and family are idols at least as wasteful and environmentally damaging as consumerism.

prepend 7y ago
Certainly electric night at light are a waste, right? Running lightbulbs in an average home for a year uses more resources than travel. Lighting is 17% of global carbon emissions, I think [0]. And air travel is 2.5% or so. Many people don’t even have the option not to travel, but everyone can choose not to use electric lights. [0] https://www.ledonecorp.com/using-led-lighting-to-reduce-your-carbon-footprint/ https://www.ledonecorp.com/using-led-lighting-to-reduce-your... [1] https://www.npr.org/2019/11/27/778692814/choosing-not-to-fly-home-for-the-holidays-for-the-climates-sake https://www.npr.org/2019/11/27/778692814/choosing-not-to-fly...
- NeedMoreTea 7y ago
  I simply do not believe LED One's claim lighting is 17%, apparently based on an all tungsten world, nor that electricity is 50% of emissions. Electricity comes out at 50% only when the category is "Electricity and heating" [1], usually it comes in at 20-30% depending on country. A lobby group promoting adoption of LED lighting in 2006 while all domestic use was still tungsten claims 6% is lighting[2]. Post LED adoption, perhaps 0.5-1%. Does anyone still use tungsten aside from some specialised use given LED bulbs are down to tungsten prices? It appears to be a small enough percentage I can't find anywhere picking out lighting individually. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/carbon-dioxide-co2-emissions-by-sector-or-source https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/carbon-dioxide-co2-emissi... [2] https://www.theclimategroup.org/project/led-scale https://www.theclimategroup.org/project/led-scale
loco5niner 7y ago
> Togetherness and family are idols at least as wasteful and environmentally damaging Sorry, but you are dead wrong. Together and family is just what we need.

prepend 7y ago

Certainly electric night at light are a waste, right? Running lightbulbs in an average home for a year uses more resources than travel. Lighting is 17% of global carbon emissions, I think [0]. And air travel is 2.5% or so. Many people don’t even have the option not to travel, but everyone can choose not to use electric lights. [0] https://www.ledonecorp.com/using-led-lighting-to-reduce-your-carbon-footprint/ https://www.ledonecorp.com/using-led-lighting-to-reduce-your... [1] https://www.npr.org/2019/11/27/778692814/choosing-not-to-fly-home-for-the-holidays-for-the-climates-sake https://www.npr.org/2019/11/27/778692814/choosing-not-to-fly...

NeedMoreTea 7y ago
I simply do not believe LED One's claim lighting is 17%, apparently based on an all tungsten world, nor that electricity is 50% of emissions. Electricity comes out at 50% only when the category is "Electricity and heating" [1], usually it comes in at 20-30% depending on country. A lobby group promoting adoption of LED lighting in 2006 while all domestic use was still tungsten claims 6% is lighting[2]. Post LED adoption, perhaps 0.5-1%. Does anyone still use tungsten aside from some specialised use given LED bulbs are down to tungsten prices? It appears to be a small enough percentage I can't find anywhere picking out lighting individually. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/carbon-dioxide-co2-emissions-by-sector-or-source https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/carbon-dioxide-co2-emissi... [2] https://www.theclimategroup.org/project/led-scale https://www.theclimategroup.org/project/led-scale

loco5niner 7y ago

> Togetherness and family are idols at least as wasteful and environmentally damaging Sorry, but you are dead wrong. Together and family is just what we need.