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ICE has arrested 250 students at fake Farmington University

19 points by asimpletune 7y ago

lupire 7y ago
ICE continues its effort to weaken USA. Note that this scheme goes back to the Obama administration. Original article has more details of this entrapment scheme. https://www.freep.com/story/news/2019/02/04/university-of-farmington-entrapment-ice/2767401002/ https://www.freep.com/story/news/2019/02/04/university-of-fa... Much like with terror stings, the government can't find any criminals so they set up frauds to trick people into breaking laws so they can take effectiveness. As a bonus, the government stole money from immigrants doing real work for the US economy and then deported them.
macawfish 7y ago
What a terrible waste of human life energy. Don't these people have dreams and aspirations? Or are their souls just that crushed? This is institutionalized, malevolent sociopathy.
- sojmq 7y ago
  ACAB. Fuck the law
trianglem 7y ago
The university is fake, I don’t know why you would arrest the students.
- larnmar 7y ago
  Because they’re illegal aliens? As an external observer I have to say that I am deeply confused about how the basics of enforcing immigration law became controversial in the US. In the rest of the world, the answer to “should we catch and deport people who are in the country illegally?” is a blank stare and a “umm, yes? Why are you even asking this?” What’s really odd is that the US was the same way up until very recently.
  - freehunter 7y ago
    The article says they were in the US on student visas. That’s not illegal immigration. > The students had arrived legally in the U.S. on student visas, but since the University of Farmington was later revealed to be a creation of federal agents, they lost their immigration status
    - larnmar 7y ago
      It was shut down in January, though. That was ten months ago. What the heck are these students still doing hanging around?
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freehunter 7y ago
Wait so the government set up a fake school and gave its students a student visa and when they showed up for school they were arrested and deported? What was the point? The people thought they were going to school and obtained student visas and the government got what out of it?
- larnmar 7y ago
  Apparently the point was to target the middlemen who recruit students for these fake universities (of which there are, apparently, plenty more out there.) The “students” were under no illusion that they’d actually get an education from this school, they knew it was a scam set up to get them into the US on student visas.
- randyrand 7y ago
  It took me a minute to understand as well. Apparently it’s a common scheme to enroll in “easy” college classes in order to stay in the USA. Some classes are merely a front just to get immigration status and not to actually provide teaching. This was one of these fake schools, but set up by the government and apparently the students knew it offered no actual classes. So the students only enrolled in the school for the immigration status and not to actually attend schools, which is a violation.
detaro 7y ago
previous discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21648411 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21648411 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21650689 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21650689

19 points by asimpletune 7y ago

ICE continues its effort to weaken USA. Note that this scheme goes back to the Obama administration. Original article has more details of this entrapment scheme. https://www.freep.com/story/news/2019/02/04/university-of-farmington-entrapment-ice/2767401002/ https://www.freep.com/story/news/2019/02/04/university-of-fa... Much like with terror stings, the government can't find any criminals so they set up frauds to trick people into breaking laws so they can take effectiveness. As a bonus, the government stole money from immigrants doing real work for the US economy and then deported them.

macawfish 7y ago

What a terrible waste of human life energy. Don't these people have dreams and aspirations? Or are their souls just that crushed? This is institutionalized, malevolent sociopathy.

sojmq 7y ago
ACAB. Fuck the law

trianglem 7y ago

The university is fake, I don’t know why you would arrest the students.

larnmar 7y ago
Because they’re illegal aliens? As an external observer I have to say that I am deeply confused about how the basics of enforcing immigration law became controversial in the US. In the rest of the world, the answer to “should we catch and deport people who are in the country illegally?” is a blank stare and a “umm, yes? Why are you even asking this?” What’s really odd is that the US was the same way up until very recently.
- freehunter 7y ago
  The article says they were in the US on student visas. That’s not illegal immigration. > The students had arrived legally in the U.S. on student visas, but since the University of Farmington was later revealed to be a creation of federal agents, they lost their immigration status
  - larnmar 7y ago
    It was shut down in January, though. That was ten months ago. What the heck are these students still doing hanging around?

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freehunter 7y ago

Wait so the government set up a fake school and gave its students a student visa and when they showed up for school they were arrested and deported? What was the point? The people thought they were going to school and obtained student visas and the government got what out of it?

larnmar 7y ago
Apparently the point was to target the middlemen who recruit students for these fake universities (of which there are, apparently, plenty more out there.) The “students” were under no illusion that they’d actually get an education from this school, they knew it was a scam set up to get them into the US on student visas.
randyrand 7y ago
It took me a minute to understand as well. Apparently it’s a common scheme to enroll in “easy” college classes in order to stay in the USA. Some classes are merely a front just to get immigration status and not to actually provide teaching. This was one of these fake schools, but set up by the government and apparently the students knew it offered no actual classes. So the students only enrolled in the school for the immigration status and not to actually attend schools, which is a violation.

detaro 7y ago

previous discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21648411 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21648411 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21650689 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21650689