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Comparing modern technology with decades old technology and claiming it's a fair comparison for safety standards is wildly disingenuous. How many modern vehicl

Comparing modern technology with decades old technology and claiming it's a fair comparison for safety standards is wildly disingenuous. How many modern vehicles spontaneously burst into flame? I could easily believe it's orders of magnitude larger than for Teslas, but when you make comparisons like you did it just discredits your entire argument.

jhayward 7y ago
Ok, I provided one example. It's on you to prove the point then. Please provide relevant facts proving your case. Prove my point is wrong. Oh, and the majority of present-day ignitions in automobiles are still the exact same mechanical interlock switching types used since the 60's. Higher-end vehicles have solid state switching, but it's not the majority of vehicles. Also: https://abcnews.go.com/US/bmw-recalls-million-vehicles-fire-risk/story?id=50922136 https://abcnews.go.com/US/bmw-recalls-million-vehicles-fire-...
- OnlineGladiator 7y ago
  You made a claim, not me. I just said your argument is flawed. I didn't say you're wrong - I believe you're probably right. But you didn't actually provide any data for your claim. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/222/Shifting-of-the-Burden-of-Proof https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFalla...
  - jhayward 7y ago
    Perhaps you could contribute positively to the discussion rather than just taking badly aimed potshots. You objected, you do better.
    - OnlineGladiator 7y ago
      I consider criticizing an argument to be a contribution - I did not even say you are wrong. It seems you want me to provide a clearly detailed argument for why you are wrong, but I don't have that because I don't even believe you are wrong. I haven't looked at the data - I just looked at your argument. Anyway, agree to disagree I guess.

jhayward 7y ago

Ok, I provided one example. It's on you to prove the point then. Please provide relevant facts proving your case. Prove my point is wrong. Oh, and the majority of present-day ignitions in automobiles are still the exact same mechanical interlock switching types used since the 60's. Higher-end vehicles have solid state switching, but it's not the majority of vehicles. Also: https://abcnews.go.com/US/bmw-recalls-million-vehicles-fire-risk/story?id=50922136 https://abcnews.go.com/US/bmw-recalls-million-vehicles-fire-...

OnlineGladiator 7y ago
You made a claim, not me. I just said your argument is flawed. I didn't say you're wrong - I believe you're probably right. But you didn't actually provide any data for your claim. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/222/Shifting-of-the-Burden-of-Proof https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFalla...
- jhayward 7y ago
  Perhaps you could contribute positively to the discussion rather than just taking badly aimed potshots. You objected, you do better.
  - OnlineGladiator 7y ago
    I consider criticizing an argument to be a contribution - I did not even say you are wrong. It seems you want me to provide a clearly detailed argument for why you are wrong, but I don't have that because I don't even believe you are wrong. I haven't looked at the data - I just looked at your argument. Anyway, agree to disagree I guess.