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And yet Usain Bolt still runs. The impression I got from Lee Se-dol in the Netflix documentary was that he had a lot of his identity tied up in this (particula

And yet Usain Bolt still runs. The impression I got from Lee Se-dol in the Netflix documentary was that he had a lot of his identity tied up in this (particularly being the best Go player in the world). Not a huge surprise given the time and effort required to do it, but there's probably a healthier mental framing (I think Kasparov has a healthier one). If people give up on learning or doing something every time someone or something else can do it better then there's going to be a lot of disappointment as things continue to move forward.

forgot-my-pw 7y ago
Lee Sedol has been on the decline, even before AlphaGo. He was top 5 back then, but now down to 50+: https://www.goratings.org/en/players/5.html https://www.goratings.org/en/players/5.html Maybe he's lost motivation, but this retirement is not a surprise.
scottlegrand2 7y ago
Usain Bolt chose his core competency wisely. Although it does imply hilarity would ensue from an all robot Olympics team (from the nation of 0 1 obviously), no?
correct_horse 7y ago
I think Usain Bolt no longer runs - he retired - but point taken.
meesles 7y ago
I appreciate the sentiment. If you look at sports records over time, everything gets continuously improves. Whether this is because of genetics or technology is up for debate, but I'm reminded of a funny (probably false) quote from an ex-Commissioner of US patent office: "everything that can be invented has been invented". The point is we don't really know what limits exist beyond our small pinhole of perception. During industrialization I'm sure people said the same thing: "What's the point of hand-made clothing if machines can do it?". Today both hand-made and factory-made clothing have their place in the market. Throughout history, tools have disrupted humanity and we've adjusted and expanded our horizons. To me this feels like another wave, and If I could bet and could collect winnings centuries in the future, I'd say this isn't even the last one.
- pps43 7y ago
  > If you look at sports records over time, everything gets continuously improves. Some track and field records set in the '80s still stand, e.g., Marita Koch's 400 m, Jürgen Schult's discus throw, Galina Chistyakova's long jump.

forgot-my-pw 7y ago

Lee Sedol has been on the decline, even before AlphaGo. He was top 5 back then, but now down to 50+: https://www.goratings.org/en/players/5.html https://www.goratings.org/en/players/5.html Maybe he's lost motivation, but this retirement is not a surprise.

scottlegrand2 7y ago

Usain Bolt chose his core competency wisely. Although it does imply hilarity would ensue from an all robot Olympics team (from the nation of 0 1 obviously), no?

correct_horse 7y ago

I think Usain Bolt no longer runs - he retired - but point taken.

meesles 7y ago

I appreciate the sentiment. If you look at sports records over time, everything gets continuously improves. Whether this is because of genetics or technology is up for debate, but I'm reminded of a funny (probably false) quote from an ex-Commissioner of US patent office: "everything that can be invented has been invented". The point is we don't really know what limits exist beyond our small pinhole of perception. During industrialization I'm sure people said the same thing: "What's the point of hand-made clothing if machines can do it?". Today both hand-made and factory-made clothing have their place in the market. Throughout history, tools have disrupted humanity and we've adjusted and expanded our horizons. To me this feels like another wave, and If I could bet and could collect winnings centuries in the future, I'd say this isn't even the last one.

pps43 7y ago
> If you look at sports records over time, everything gets continuously improves. Some track and field records set in the '80s still stand, e.g., Marita Koch's 400 m, Jürgen Schult's discus throw, Galina Chistyakova's long jump.