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The paper might have a less sensational title, but that does not make the content any less news-worthy. I don't think the author is wrong at raising alarm about

The paper might have a less sensational title, but that does not make the content any less news-worthy. I don't think the author is wrong at raising alarm about this.

brenden2 7y ago
2 different titles: "The rate of life expectancy increase slowed over time and life expectancy decreased after 2014" vs "Young people in U.S. dying at high rates" Which one seems sensationalist to you?
- buboard 7y ago
  This: > life expectancy decreased after 2014 is explained by this: > "Young people in U.S. dying at high rates" Unless something terrible happened, lowered life expectancy for 3 years in a row should be unacceptable and warrant sensationalism. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/theres-something-terribly-wrong-americans-are-dying-young-at-alarming-rates/2019/11/25/d88b28ec-0d6a-11ea-8397-a955cd542d00_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/theres-something-terri... https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/921858 https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/921858 https://www.healio.com/primary-care/practice-management/news/online/%7B257bd9d1-41b0-4bbc-bc7d-79c4b8a8f8dd%7D/us-life-expectancy-drops-after-decades-of-improvement https://www.healio.com/primary-care/practice-management/news...
- TurkishPoptart 7y ago
  The one that is based on a scientific paper is less sensationalist.
- sachdevap 7y ago
  Whatever you think about this issue, what kind of snowflakes do we have on HN who can't handle reasonable disagreement? Downvotes on such a reasoned disagreement is just sad. Edit: Just for context, there were downvotes initially on my grandparent comment, which has since changed.
  - mynameisvlad 7y ago
    > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html People will disagree, and some will downvote as a result. It's all meaningless internet points anyway, so why does it matter so much?
    - sachdevap 7y ago
      It actually does matter to visibility of comments when you're trying to engage in discussions. If you'll read my comment, I'm not really craving internet points in anyway. Downvoting for disagreement is just a poor way of having a discussion. In the comment that was downvoted, there was no name-calling, nothing uncivil. A lot of subreddits, surprisingly unlike HN, do actually discourage downvoting. And if I was craving internet points I'd probably not comment about voting cause clearly that's unpopular too. My arguments notwithstanding, I don't intend to comment on voting again.
- sachdevap 7y ago
  This is not what my comment is about. I am saying that irrespective of the less sensational paper title, the conclusion of the paper is worth sensationalizing.

The paper might have a less sensational title, but that does not make the content any less news-worthy. I don't think the author is wrong at raising alarm about this.

brenden2 7y ago

2 different titles: "The rate of life expectancy increase slowed over time and life expectancy decreased after 2014" vs "Young people in U.S. dying at high rates" Which one seems sensationalist to you?

buboard 7y ago
This: > life expectancy decreased after 2014 is explained by this: > "Young people in U.S. dying at high rates" Unless something terrible happened, lowered life expectancy for 3 years in a row should be unacceptable and warrant sensationalism. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/theres-something-terribly-wrong-americans-are-dying-young-at-alarming-rates/2019/11/25/d88b28ec-0d6a-11ea-8397-a955cd542d00_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/theres-something-terri... https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/921858 https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/921858 https://www.healio.com/primary-care/practice-management/news/online/%7B257bd9d1-41b0-4bbc-bc7d-79c4b8a8f8dd%7D/us-life-expectancy-drops-after-decades-of-improvement https://www.healio.com/primary-care/practice-management/news...
TurkishPoptart 7y ago
The one that is based on a scientific paper is less sensationalist.
sachdevap 7y ago
Whatever you think about this issue, what kind of snowflakes do we have on HN who can't handle reasonable disagreement? Downvotes on such a reasoned disagreement is just sad. Edit: Just for context, there were downvotes initially on my grandparent comment, which has since changed.
- mynameisvlad 7y ago
  > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html People will disagree, and some will downvote as a result. It's all meaningless internet points anyway, so why does it matter so much?
  - sachdevap 7y ago
    It actually does matter to visibility of comments when you're trying to engage in discussions. If you'll read my comment, I'm not really craving internet points in anyway. Downvoting for disagreement is just a poor way of having a discussion. In the comment that was downvoted, there was no name-calling, nothing uncivil. A lot of subreddits, surprisingly unlike HN, do actually discourage downvoting. And if I was craving internet points I'd probably not comment about voting cause clearly that's unpopular too. My arguments notwithstanding, I don't intend to comment on voting again.
sachdevap 7y ago
This is not what my comment is about. I am saying that irrespective of the less sensational paper title, the conclusion of the paper is worth sensationalizing.