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Russia has the power to take a portion of territory and they did. The means through which they did it is considered wrong, but it doesn't change the reality of
by nickpeterson 7y ago
Russia has the power to take a portion of territory and they did. The means through which they did it is considered wrong, but it doesn't change the reality of who controls the area. Maps of political borders are maps of influence, not maps of ideals.
I'll also note that thoughts and prayers are not terribly useful in these situations. Force responds to force, nothing else. I expect Russia to continue doing these sorts of things while the world frets.
- jevgeni 7y agoThat is legally not true.
- nickpeterson 7y agoI didn't say anything about legality.
- lawnchair_larry 7y agoLegally not true in which jurisdiction?
- mensetmanusman 7y agoLaw is a subset of violent power.
- FpUser 7y agoI expect Russia to continue doing these sorts of things while the world frets. I think the situation with Crimea is unique as there is a set of multiple historical, racial, political etc. etc. factors not present anywhere else. What else could Russia possibly annex without triggering major war and world mayhem?
- xenospn 7y agoNorthern Georgia.
- FpUser 7y agoMissed that one. It is a mess in there. But said mess did already happen and I was talking about future. Russia had definitely taken advantage of the situation where 2 regions wanted to separate. The end outlook is not encouraging. I am curious here about one thing here. Government leaders supposed to be smart people. Where did Saakashvili (Georgian president at the time) loose his last 2 brain cells before allowing military attack on stationed Russian peacekeepers. Try to imagine Syrian soldiers attacking US military and see what happens.
- renjimen 7y agoI saw a documentary where the border in Georgia was slowly creeping overnight. Like, they literally move the fence up when it's dark. So, possibly still on-going.
- brutt 7y agoAlaska maybe. :-/
- urda 7y agoSo Russia would annex a portion of the US and not trigger war or any conflict? Yeah, no that's highly unlikely.
- brutt 7y agoPeople of Alaska will declare independence (with little help of Russian tourists, journalists, and some honest news). This will not trigger a war, right? Independent Democratic People Republic of Alaska will join Russian Federation next day after that. Job is done.
- FpUser 7y agoJust in case the original Alaska message was not sarcasm. States can not secede from the US. Do a little reading on this. And if they try there will be action from the rest of US starting from police and up to full blown military enforcement. And if Russia will try to protect said state we will have nice little nuclear war. Say bye to your iPhone and Hacker News.
- drran 7y agoCrimea cannot secede from the Ukraine. Was not a problem, solved with lots of honest news made by Russian journalists with help of Russian green (khaki) tourists. Ukraine started full-blown military operation. Not a problem, because war was triggered on Donbass, part of Ukraine which is not annexed. Ukraine is post-nuclear country, so it can nuke Russia. Not a problem, because of fear of MAD. Please, invent something new.
- FpUser 7y agoI was talking about Alaska.
- mzs 7y agothe rest of Donbass
- drran 7y agoWar on Donbass is used by Russia to keep Crimea intact. Russia is not interested in these ruins, until Ukraine will rebuild Donbass again.
- keiferski 7y agoThe only real answer to this question is probably Belarus.
- FpUser 7y agoIn theory they can. In practice I think should any military aggression happen the rest of the world will quite deservedly cut off any ties with Russia while offering to Belorussia all military assistance possible short of direct participation.