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Before cars, there were horses. We humans are well aware of the fact that our physical ability is not our competitive edge. What about Go? No animal or machine
by nemonemo 7y ago
Before cars, there were horses. We humans are well aware of the fact that our physical ability is not our competitive edge.
What about Go? No animal or machine could play it as well as humans do.. until AlphaGo came along. I think that is where the sense of loss comes from.
- TylerE 7y agoNot actually true. In a sprint race, yes, but in a 24 hr race the human will outdistance the horse.
- evilduck 7y ago*sometimes
- grenoire 7y agoWhat assumptions are you basing this on, curious to know if horses have a disadvantage over longer durations.
- filleokus 7y agoProbably related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_running_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_running_hypothesis
- hanspragt 7y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon
- mumblemumble 7y agotl;dr: Annual 22-mile race with both pedestrian and equestrian competitors. Out of the 40 times it's been held, the winner was a human twice, and a horse 38 times. Typically the spread between the fastest human and the fastest horse has been less than 10 minutes.
- twoquestions 7y agoVery cool. I'd like to see a horse vs human ultramarathon, more like the 24 hour time the parent suggested. I was surprised human and horse competitors were so close at that distance!
- Humdeee 7y agoTo note: horses compete alongside humans... while carrying a human.
- jakswa 7y agoMy assumption when I read your parent comment was: Two legs are more efficient than four, and can go farther before exhaustion... but that's full of holes. Horses are huge, bristling with energy, right?
- z3t4 7y agoHaving the weight centered vertically above the legs and a smaller weight is more energy efficient
- frgtpsswrdlame 7y agoIt's true, google it. The combination of two legs and relative lack of hair make humans one of the best long distance runners in the animal kingdom.
- manifestsilence 7y agoNot sure about horses specifically, but humans are uniquely adapted to long distance travel among large land animals and used it for hunting by out-performing most other species: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting Edit: it's one of two things I know of that we really excel at besides thinking. The other being accurate throwing, which perhaps explains baseball's enduring appeal: https://what-if.xkcd.com/44/ https://what-if.xkcd.com/44/
- ckosidows 7y agoI would recommend reading _Born to Run_ by Christopher McDougall. Later in the book he addresses this very topic and expands much more upon the topic of humans and long-distance running. Humans sweat, which most (all?) other animals don't. In that way we can dissipate heat through our breath, like other animals, _and_ via perspiration, meaning it takes us much longer to overheat. Additionally, humans stand upright, allowing us to disconnect our stride from our oxygen intake. Other animals' strides correlate (mostly?) 1:1 with the breaths they take. So when a cheetah outstretches in its stride it breathes in and when its legs come together it exhales. Humans stand upright, meaning we can breathe however we want regardless of our stride and speed. We can take deeper breaths because we don't have to exhale every time we stretch our legs. Humans are the ultimate marathon runners, even more so than horses, evinced by the fact that there are some people throughout history who have run hundreds of miles in the course of days or weeks. There's a theory touched upon in the book about how this allowed us to dominate the animal kingdom before we even had tools. Humans could relentlessly hunt and exhaust animals as long as they could keep them in sight or otherwise keep up with their tracks. I'm not doing the book or the topic justice, surely, but if you're interested I highly recommend the book.
- blattimwind 7y agoHorses are part of a not that long list of mammals that do sweat almost all over their body. That is indeed one of the reasons why they are competitive with humans at running long distances.
- nemonemo 7y agoLiterally speaking, I don't know what is not true about my statement above. But your point is well taken; it is also applicable to this article as well: maybe Go is not the game people can beat machines, but StarCraft 6 could be. Or maybe I can fold my laundry more efficiently than any machine available.