Yes. The gloom and doomers hurt “the cause”, some of us have been saying that this for years. There are many in this thread. And YES, it’s crazy frustrating wh

Yes. The gloom and doomers hurt “the cause”, some of us have been saying that this for years. There are many in this thread. And YES, it’s crazy frustrating when “weather is not climate - unless I’m trying to prove climate change”. Many religious believers who argue they’re interested in “the science” are just as stubborn and bull headed as the deniers. But, anyone who questions whether a global tax designed to keep a specific group in power and really just call for global socialism is the only solution is automatically “a denier”, so there is that too. I’m with you, I find the die hards on the topic to be highly ineffective in convincing me of their point let alone actual skeptics.