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Ah, the modern approach to climate change denial: OK, climate change is real and caused by people [ya think?], but it's more of a problem of koalas and gorillas
by jmull 7y ago
Ah, the modern approach to climate change denial: OK, climate change is real and caused by people [ya think?], but it's more of a problem of koalas and gorillas and not a big problem for people. And what we really need to do is burn more coal.
Complete BS.
E.g. the rationale of burning coal is that if India burns more coal they'll become wealthier faster and that will push the birthrate down, which will result in fewer people using less energy. That obviously makes no sense since wealthier nations have much higher per-capita carbon emissions which far more than offsets lower population growth. E.g. the US has ~8x the per-capita carbon emissions of India. (Now a constant change in the rate of population growth will overcome that difference in enough time -- but there's no reason to expect the difference to be constant. In fact, no exponential phenomenon holds a constant rate of growth for long since it must soon outstrip the environment that allows it.)
The only reason an intelligent person would make such a easily refutable untrue claim is because it's in their personal self interests to do so... It's a con and they are making money. (It's not too hard to guess where the money might be coming from, BTW)
Of course these guys love the environmentalist lunatic fringe. They are easy to dislike and easy to argue against. And as long as you can keep the focus on them you don't have to address real objects.
The idea that climate change will have a minor impact on GDP is also terribly wrong. The essential dynamic of the climate change crisis is that we are "borrowing from the future" -- we're emitting a lot of carbon now for short term gain vs costs that won't come due for the long term. But the GDP projections are based on the effect of climate change on our GDP in the recent past. It's like taking cash advances on a 40% no-minimum payment credit card and saying: "this won't screw up my financial future, look at how much money I've had in my pocket over the last week... At this rate, I'll always have money in my pocket." But the reality is the bill is going to come due.
- titzer 7y ago> E.g. the US has ~8x the per-capita carbon emissions of India. Thank you for pointing out the very obvious elephant in the room: both China and India, nearly 3 billion people, cannot live like the United States, but they are on a trajectory to do so, and we in the west have no moral high ground to tell them no. This is the #1 reason we are totally hosed in the long run.
- pas 7y agoThat's not even remotely sound. Any country can live like the US. The technology is there, it has been there for 50 years. Nuclear energy, electric vehicles, better insulation and building heat/energy management, and so on. Plus, it's not like those countries would even want to live like the US. No, they want better. Public transportation, affordable healthcare and education, and so on.