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I experienced this several times as an employee. It becomes hard to stand when you realize that every positive contribution just results in more money being sho

by kbr2000 7y ago

I experienced this several times as an employee. It becomes hard to stand when you realize that every positive contribution just results in more money being shoveled out of the window behind your back (mainly because of greed, inefficiency, keeping the status quo, and wreckless behaviour caused by trust in your capabilities to somehow fix it again, every time over again) -- as opposed to contributing to a more efficient way of working for everyone. Been doing extreme over-hours in the hope of fixing stuff once and for ever, only to realize your job becomes more and more like shit-shoveling, since management starts to feel invincible (and protected by your contributions), which leads them to make even more errors without accountability. I've seen some of them with tears in their eyes when I finally quit. 'nuff said. Profiteurs!

penetrarthur 7y ago
> Been doing extreme over-hours in the hope of fixing stuff once and for ever, only to realize your job becomes more and more like shit-shoveling, since management starts to feel invincible (and protected by your contributions) Isn't that when you start earning a lot of money?
- tanseydavid 7y ago
  > Isn't that when you start earning a lot of money? This is very dangerous thinking. Figure out why this true if it is not already obvious. * Not sustainable * Not healthy * Not scalable No sarcasm here. Try to avoid this thinking-trap.
  - kbr2000 7y ago
    Correct. Also, they won't give you that money if they know your motivation is the will to fix things. The money flows instead to the ones who have receiving more money as their motivation.
netwanderer3 7y ago
This is actually a very common systemic problem, even happened at organizations like NASA. When the risk is reduced in a single area within a system, people would tend to increase risky behaviors in other areas because they unconsciously justify those behaviors with a perception that the entire system has now become safer. I'm afraid there's no solution to this. In the end we are all humans. How does one even begin to solve a psychological problem at a large scale like this?
naravara 7y ago
> Been doing extreme over-hours in the hope of fixing stuff once and for ever, only to realize your job becomes more and more like shit-shoveling, since management starts to feel invincible (and protected by your contributions), which leads them to make even more errors without accountability. Legal departments have been dealing with this problem forever too. Such is the plight of being in an assurance function. Induced demand doesn’t just apply to traffic, it turns out. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand

penetrarthur 7y ago

tanseydavid 7y ago
> Isn't that when you start earning a lot of money? This is very dangerous thinking. Figure out why this true if it is not already obvious. * Not sustainable * Not healthy * Not scalable No sarcasm here. Try to avoid this thinking-trap.
- kbr2000 7y ago
  Correct. Also, they won't give you that money if they know your motivation is the will to fix things. The money flows instead to the ones who have receiving more money as their motivation.

netwanderer3 7y ago

This is actually a very common systemic problem, even happened at organizations like NASA. When the risk is reduced in a single area within a system, people would tend to increase risky behaviors in other areas because they unconsciously justify those behaviors with a perception that the entire system has now become safer. I'm afraid there's no solution to this. In the end we are all humans. How does one even begin to solve a psychological problem at a large scale like this?

naravara 7y ago

> Been doing extreme over-hours in the hope of fixing stuff once and for ever, only to realize your job becomes more and more like shit-shoveling, since management starts to feel invincible (and protected by your contributions), which leads them to make even more errors without accountability. Legal departments have been dealing with this problem forever too. Such is the plight of being in an assurance function. Induced demand doesn’t just apply to traffic, it turns out. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand