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Cocoon – A New Social Network

9 points by psychanarch 7y ago

unicornporn 7y ago
Not a single word about encryption on the front page. If this wants to be your most private social network for your close ones, it better step up. I/we chose Signal.
- escaper 7y ago
  Exactly what I was looking for- these days you can't claim anything is "private" without backing it up technically.
- nileshtrivedi 7y ago
  I started work on an open-source equivalent for the same motivation: https://github.com/nileshtrivedi/family https://github.com/nileshtrivedi/family Signal and Matrix are good but there is value in UX optimized for closed, intimate groups. Signal also requires phone numbers which, in certain nations, are becoming problematic.
pxtail 7y ago
Congrats on that name deeply related to bugs reproductive cycle (oh, and homepage downloads almost 20MB)
trekrich 7y ago
no thanks, no social network is private. Once its online it will be sold. Or can be subpoenaed. just like your dna!
ktpsns 7y ago
Well congrats on the small videos, they are well done and show some highlights. For me it looks like a standard chat group in one of {Whatsapp,Signal,Telegram,Threema,Facebook,whatever-social-network-on-mobile-phones-look-like}, but with a few more lovely details. It's the details which make the difference, in the end. Nevertheless, it looks that even kind-of-industry-standards such as end-to-end-encryption are not implemented. And I would like to see something without a central server. Something which makes matrix.org and friends more user-friendly, for instance.
- nileshtrivedi 7y ago
  I'm building an open-source equivalent with those exact goals (also using this as an excuse to learn Flutter): https://github.com/nileshtrivedi/family https://github.com/nileshtrivedi/family Just pushed a chat-screen UI and FireStore integration (all content will be encrypted and keys will only stay on device). Could explore making it as just a Matrix.org client (to get voice/video calls): https://twitter.com/nileshtrivedi/status/1200480301480169472 https://twitter.com/nileshtrivedi/status/1200480301480169472 Eventually, I think someone like FSF or EFF should own it.
biolurker1 7y ago
Can you please explain how this differs from a WhatsApp or telegram group? Also why would most of my family use iPhone? I don't see the android version
- balladeer 7y ago
  That was my first thought as well. It's just a group on any of these messaging apps, apparently - as it is not even mentioned "anywhere", without encryption or any kind of strong privacy measures. Feels like an app hoping for enough traction followed by an acquisition or getting into data selling business.
thrax 7y ago
Clicks -> sees app store link -> hits back button. If your social media app isn't browser based first and foremost.. then I don't trust your judgement.

9 points by psychanarch 7y ago

Not a single word about encryption on the front page. If this wants to be your most private social network for your close ones, it better step up. I/we chose Signal.

escaper 7y ago
Exactly what I was looking for- these days you can't claim anything is "private" without backing it up technically.
nileshtrivedi 7y ago
I started work on an open-source equivalent for the same motivation: https://github.com/nileshtrivedi/family https://github.com/nileshtrivedi/family Signal and Matrix are good but there is value in UX optimized for closed, intimate groups. Signal also requires phone numbers which, in certain nations, are becoming problematic.

pxtail 7y ago

Congrats on that name deeply related to bugs reproductive cycle (oh, and homepage downloads almost 20MB)

trekrich 7y ago

no thanks, no social network is private. Once its online it will be sold. Or can be subpoenaed. just like your dna!

ktpsns 7y ago

Well congrats on the small videos, they are well done and show some highlights. For me it looks like a standard chat group in one of {Whatsapp,Signal,Telegram,Threema,Facebook,whatever-social-network-on-mobile-phones-look-like}, but with a few more lovely details. It's the details which make the difference, in the end. Nevertheless, it looks that even kind-of-industry-standards such as end-to-end-encryption are not implemented. And I would like to see something without a central server. Something which makes matrix.org and friends more user-friendly, for instance.

nileshtrivedi 7y ago
I'm building an open-source equivalent with those exact goals (also using this as an excuse to learn Flutter): https://github.com/nileshtrivedi/family https://github.com/nileshtrivedi/family Just pushed a chat-screen UI and FireStore integration (all content will be encrypted and keys will only stay on device). Could explore making it as just a Matrix.org client (to get voice/video calls): https://twitter.com/nileshtrivedi/status/1200480301480169472 https://twitter.com/nileshtrivedi/status/1200480301480169472 Eventually, I think someone like FSF or EFF should own it.

biolurker1 7y ago

Can you please explain how this differs from a WhatsApp or telegram group? Also why would most of my family use iPhone? I don't see the android version

balladeer 7y ago
That was my first thought as well. It's just a group on any of these messaging apps, apparently - as it is not even mentioned "anywhere", without encryption or any kind of strong privacy measures. Feels like an app hoping for enough traction followed by an acquisition or getting into data selling business.

thrax 7y ago

Clicks -> sees app store link -> hits back button. If your social media app isn't browser based first and foremost.. then I don't trust your judgement.