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> 50 years ago? Can you provide any link or evidence that you made the specific bet 50 years ago? > Sure, and if you give a monkey with a typewriter infinite

> 50 years ago? Can you provide any link or evidence that you made the specific bet 50 years ago? > Sure, and if you give a monkey with a typewriter infinite time, he'll eventually write Shakespeare. Only impatient and ignorant monkeys think it takes several years to change 1.4 billion people.

president 7y ago
> Can you provide any link or evidence that you made the specific bet 50 years ago? US relations with China began in the 1970s during the Nixon administration. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon%27s_1972_visit_to_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon%27s_1972_visit_t.... > Only impatient and ignorant monkeys think it takes several years to change 1.4 billion people. It's a matter of willingness, not time. If Xi can create a system to surveil and restrict the free speech of 1.4 billion people in less than 10 years, I'm sure he can create a system of Democracy in even less time than that.
- deepVoid 7y ago
  > US relations with China began in the 1970s during the Nixon administration. US started diplomatic relationship with China, in order to fight USSR, not to put a bet. USSR was by far the bigger threat and the US and China had a common enemy. > If Xi can create a system to surveil and restrict the free speech of 1.4 billion people in less than 10 years. Have you not learned a thing in your whole life? Changing 1.4 billion people's ideology is way way way harder than building a surveillance system.
  - president 7y ago
    Do you think it's easier to put someone in a prison or to let them out? Have a little faith in the Chinese people :) EDIT: I think you missed my point but I think I should leave you with your rose-tinted glasses on.
    - deepVoid 7y ago
      Exactly. :) Those bureaucrats are holding back the 1.4 billion lovely people. We need to differentiate the people from the CCP. The people love the US and freedom. I am proud of the people in Hong Kong. They are fighting for their own freedom harder than ever.

president 7y ago

> Can you provide any link or evidence that you made the specific bet 50 years ago? US relations with China began in the 1970s during the Nixon administration. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon%27s_1972_visit_to_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon%27s_1972_visit_t.... > Only impatient and ignorant monkeys think it takes several years to change 1.4 billion people. It's a matter of willingness, not time. If Xi can create a system to surveil and restrict the free speech of 1.4 billion people in less than 10 years, I'm sure he can create a system of Democracy in even less time than that.

deepVoid 7y ago
> US relations with China began in the 1970s during the Nixon administration. US started diplomatic relationship with China, in order to fight USSR, not to put a bet. USSR was by far the bigger threat and the US and China had a common enemy. > If Xi can create a system to surveil and restrict the free speech of 1.4 billion people in less than 10 years. Have you not learned a thing in your whole life? Changing 1.4 billion people's ideology is way way way harder than building a surveillance system.
- president 7y ago
  Do you think it's easier to put someone in a prison or to let them out? Have a little faith in the Chinese people :) EDIT: I think you missed my point but I think I should leave you with your rose-tinted glasses on.
  - deepVoid 7y ago
    Exactly. :) Those bureaucrats are holding back the 1.4 billion lovely people. We need to differentiate the people from the CCP. The people love the US and freedom. I am proud of the people in Hong Kong. They are fighting for their own freedom harder than ever.