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I'm glad that it has tmux compatibility. Does anyone else have a love hate relationship with tmux? I hate its scrolling and buffer behavior, its almost imposs

I'm glad that it has tmux compatibility. Does anyone else have a love hate relationship with tmux? I hate its scrolling and buffer behavior, its almost impossible to get right. Been waiting for a good replacement for tmux to come along for a while now that isn't just i3. Right now I just use tabs in the terminal app most of the time because I dont want to mess with mouse mode, etc.

ofrzeta 7y ago
> Does anyone else have a love hate relationship with tmux? Absolutely. Just today I logged in on some server and started a tmux session to learn that copypasting with mouse didn't work. After googling how to solve this I noticed that scrollback with mousehweel also didn't work. Then I remembered that I did solve that some time ago but never was satisfied with it because the scroll speed/differential was so low.
- abcdef123xyz123 7y ago
  It is easy to change the scroll speed in tmux, although the default is 5 lines at a time which seems like it should be fast enough... Mouse and scrollback and clipboard are some of the more complicated areas of terminal emulators and ones where applications like tmux have the least power so they will always have the potential to be a bit fiddly.
0xb100db1ade 7y ago
> Been waiting for a good replacement for tmux to come along for a while now that isn't just i3 > Does anyone else have a love hate relationship with tmux? > I hate its scrolling and buffer behavior, its almost impossible to get right. I wasn't planning on sharing my project on HN until I've written up more documentation, but I'm actually working on exactly this problem. https://github.com/aaronjanse/i3-tmux https://github.com/aaronjanse/i3-tmux So far I've got i3-like controls, resizing & scrolling terminal splits with the mouse, and better color support than tmux. My current roadblock has been lack of motivation, but if *anyone& on HN finds this interesting (or even just files a bug report), I'd be motivated to reignite my work on the project.
- abcdef123xyz 7y ago
  How is the colour support better?
  - 0xb100db1ade 7y ago
    I don't have zsh setup on the OS I'm running currently, but a simple example is that the light-grey autocomplete text from zsh/oh-my-zsh shows up on i3-tmux but not tmux (at least at the time of writing). I honestly don't remember the exact details, and maybe it's now fixed.
    - abcdef123xyz 7y ago
      Most likely you are using the wrong TERM so tmux doesn't have the correct information about what colours your terminal supports.
- csdvrx 7y ago
  Funny, me too! I was adding some features yesterday, a few more today, but I took a few minutes to do screenshots and join the discussion. If you are focused on better controls, our work may be complementary. Would you like to join forces on a high quality fork? A few things concern me with tmux currently. Please read the following links and tell me whether you share these concerns: https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1019#issuecomment-318284445 https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1019#issuecomment-318284... https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1502#issuecomment-429710887 https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1502#issuecomment-429710... https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/44#issuecomment-119755304 https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/44#issuecomment-11975530... https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1391#issuecomment-403267557 https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1391#issuecomment-403267... Please tell me more about your color support issues, and check https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-testsuite https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-testsuite to see if you can diagnose them more precisely
  - abcdef123xyz123 7y ago
    https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1613 https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1613 is a better reflection of my views on SIXEL, although I am coming round to the idea rather. It is not easy to do properly however, I am interested to see how your code works.
fhennig 7y ago
I never quite understood the usecase of having tabs inside the terminal emulator. Isn't it nice to have i3 instead?
- tedunangst 7y ago
  And when I switch laptops I get to type 'tmux at' in 14 different windows? No thanks.
csdvrx 7y ago
I do. I have found yesterday and today several strange issues, and a pattern of breaking more things with new features - like deciding to silently drop lines. So I decide to work a little more on my fork on https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-tmux https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-tmux You can see how it handles SGR attributes (bold, italic, underline) and also sixels. I love sixels!

I'm glad that it has tmux compatibility. Does anyone else have a love hate relationship with tmux? I hate its scrolling and buffer behavior, its almost imposs

ofrzeta 7y ago

> Does anyone else have a love hate relationship with tmux? Absolutely. Just today I logged in on some server and started a tmux session to learn that copypasting with mouse didn't work. After googling how to solve this I noticed that scrollback with mousehweel also didn't work. Then I remembered that I did solve that some time ago but never was satisfied with it because the scroll speed/differential was so low.

abcdef123xyz123 7y ago
It is easy to change the scroll speed in tmux, although the default is 5 lines at a time which seems like it should be fast enough... Mouse and scrollback and clipboard are some of the more complicated areas of terminal emulators and ones where applications like tmux have the least power so they will always have the potential to be a bit fiddly.

0xb100db1ade 7y ago

> Been waiting for a good replacement for tmux to come along for a while now that isn't just i3 > Does anyone else have a love hate relationship with tmux? > I hate its scrolling and buffer behavior, its almost impossible to get right. I wasn't planning on sharing my project on HN until I've written up more documentation, but I'm actually working on exactly this problem. https://github.com/aaronjanse/i3-tmux https://github.com/aaronjanse/i3-tmux So far I've got i3-like controls, resizing & scrolling terminal splits with the mouse, and better color support than tmux. My current roadblock has been lack of motivation, but if *anyone& on HN finds this interesting (or even just files a bug report), I'd be motivated to reignite my work on the project.

abcdef123xyz 7y ago
How is the colour support better?
- 0xb100db1ade 7y ago
  I don't have zsh setup on the OS I'm running currently, but a simple example is that the light-grey autocomplete text from zsh/oh-my-zsh shows up on i3-tmux but not tmux (at least at the time of writing). I honestly don't remember the exact details, and maybe it's now fixed.
  - abcdef123xyz 7y ago
    Most likely you are using the wrong TERM so tmux doesn't have the correct information about what colours your terminal supports.
csdvrx 7y ago
Funny, me too! I was adding some features yesterday, a few more today, but I took a few minutes to do screenshots and join the discussion. If you are focused on better controls, our work may be complementary. Would you like to join forces on a high quality fork? A few things concern me with tmux currently. Please read the following links and tell me whether you share these concerns: https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1019#issuecomment-318284445 https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1019#issuecomment-318284... https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1502#issuecomment-429710887 https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1502#issuecomment-429710... https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/44#issuecomment-119755304 https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/44#issuecomment-11975530... https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1391#issuecomment-403267557 https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1391#issuecomment-403267... Please tell me more about your color support issues, and check https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-testsuite https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-testsuite to see if you can diagnose them more precisely
- abcdef123xyz123 7y ago
  https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1613 https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1613 is a better reflection of my views on SIXEL, although I am coming round to the idea rather. It is not easy to do properly however, I am interested to see how your code works.

fhennig 7y ago

I never quite understood the usecase of having tabs inside the terminal emulator. Isn't it nice to have i3 instead?

tedunangst 7y ago
And when I switch laptops I get to type 'tmux at' in 14 different windows? No thanks.

csdvrx 7y ago

I do. I have found yesterday and today several strange issues, and a pattern of breaking more things with new features - like deciding to silently drop lines. So I decide to work a little more on my fork on https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-tmux https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-tmux You can see how it handles SGR attributes (bold, italic, underline) and also sixels. I love sixels!