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Contextualise, under Nietzsche's master-slave moralities, the following topics over which there is an abundance of articles and discussions on HN, posted by peo

Contextualise, under Nietzsche's master-slave moralities, the following topics over which there is an abundance of articles and discussions on HN, posted by people who frequent HN: Gender/racial equality, language games over gender, rights to be called one name or another, the elusive one percent, supposed rights to privacy and free speech, the right not to incriminate oneself, the pornification/glorification of work, the hustle, start-up culture, premium mediocrity etc.

KirinDave 7y ago
So do many philosophical systems. They've been shot down many times before as irrelevant. Because Nietzsche is popular with certain vocal minorities on HN who are eager to make him look more credible than he has ever actually been on this topic is the only reason it's gotten this far, whereas other philosophical frameworks that have been floated here have been moderated away as immaterial. And behold, the mods seem to have agreed to remove this from the front page. So at least we are being consistent. > language games over gender Don't think I didn't catch this, lil NRx buddy.
- 0db532a0 7y ago
  Easiest trick in the book: Associate any idea you disagree with, with "certain vocal minorities". Works wonders on here and Twitbook. I put this in the same bag as I put book reviews which go along the lines of "characters have no depth", and "no plot". Is the fact that Nietzsche is still studied and cited in a positive light, that books are written on his works by academics at leading universities including Oxford still not sufficient for you, or is it only Frankfurt types you'll openly associate with? I suppose really though that this isn't important enough for you to look into; rather you'd prefer to run the party line and maintain your job at Googsoft. You're right in one respect. I wouldn't expect any different from the mods.
  - KirinDave 7y ago
    > Easiest trick in the book: Associate any idea you disagree with, with "certain vocal minorities". Works wonders on here and Twitbook. I put this in the same bag as I put book reviews which go along the lines of "characters have no depth", and "no plot". I'm not sure who's literary critique in particular hurt you, but it's irrelevant. > Is the fact that Nietzsche is still studied and cited in a positive light, that books are written on his works by academics at leading universities including Oxford still not sufficient for you, or is it only Frankfurt types you'll openly associate with? Ah yes. Yes. The Frankfurt School. Allegiance to that group is always at the root of these problems, isnt it? You are not a "social marxism" conspiracy theorist at all. > I suppose really though that this isn't important enough for you to look into; rather you'd prefer to run the party line and maintain your job at Googsoft If you were trying to pretend you weren't in the NRx family of thought, you did a bad job here slipping a Damore reference in. > You're right in one respect. I wouldn't expect any different from the mods. Maybe post things that are meaningful about technology and science rather than the crackpot edge of Nietzche's widely rebutted social economics? Next you're going to tell me Burke was right. If you need someone to tell you it's all right, no fear! You've got a lot of other options. Maybe, go to a site like SSC.
    - 0db532a0 7y ago
      I had never heard of NRx until you mentioned it. I generally try to stay away from selling my identity to a single word, or a set of words. Yes, I am not a social marxism conspiracy theorist at all. Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make. I will rephrase in a more literal way for you to understand, in a way more difficult to avoid: Without resorting to claims of crackpotness, conspiracy theory, sympathising with vocal minorities and Nietzsche's ideas' supposed negative consequences on society, what exactly do you disagree with about using Nietzsche to understand our moral psychology, and specifically about the sources I have given in this post and in my other submissions? I envy you like I envy god-believers. It must be nice to believe and fit in.
      - KirinDave 7y ago
        > I envy you like I envy god-believers. It must be nice to believe and fit in. Yeah it must be really difficult being so smart. This is a compelling and powerful argument that is not only relevant, but also persuasive. > Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make. You've not made one, nor will you. I hope you have a happy evening.
- 0db532a0 7y ago
  What the fuck is NRx, mate? Do you even Wittgenstein [1]? Check you nextly! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_game_(philosophy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_game_(philosophy)
  - KirinDave 7y ago
    I don't understand why you think I believe in coincidences of that magnitude.

KirinDave 7y ago

So do many philosophical systems. They've been shot down many times before as irrelevant. Because Nietzsche is popular with certain vocal minorities on HN who are eager to make him look more credible than he has ever actually been on this topic is the only reason it's gotten this far, whereas other philosophical frameworks that have been floated here have been moderated away as immaterial. And behold, the mods seem to have agreed to remove this from the front page. So at least we are being consistent. > language games over gender Don't think I didn't catch this, lil NRx buddy.

0db532a0 7y ago
Easiest trick in the book: Associate any idea you disagree with, with "certain vocal minorities". Works wonders on here and Twitbook. I put this in the same bag as I put book reviews which go along the lines of "characters have no depth", and "no plot". Is the fact that Nietzsche is still studied and cited in a positive light, that books are written on his works by academics at leading universities including Oxford still not sufficient for you, or is it only Frankfurt types you'll openly associate with? I suppose really though that this isn't important enough for you to look into; rather you'd prefer to run the party line and maintain your job at Googsoft. You're right in one respect. I wouldn't expect any different from the mods.
- KirinDave 7y ago
  > Easiest trick in the book: Associate any idea you disagree with, with "certain vocal minorities". Works wonders on here and Twitbook. I put this in the same bag as I put book reviews which go along the lines of "characters have no depth", and "no plot". I'm not sure who's literary critique in particular hurt you, but it's irrelevant. > Is the fact that Nietzsche is still studied and cited in a positive light, that books are written on his works by academics at leading universities including Oxford still not sufficient for you, or is it only Frankfurt types you'll openly associate with? Ah yes. Yes. The Frankfurt School. Allegiance to that group is always at the root of these problems, isnt it? You are not a "social marxism" conspiracy theorist at all. > I suppose really though that this isn't important enough for you to look into; rather you'd prefer to run the party line and maintain your job at Googsoft If you were trying to pretend you weren't in the NRx family of thought, you did a bad job here slipping a Damore reference in. > You're right in one respect. I wouldn't expect any different from the mods. Maybe post things that are meaningful about technology and science rather than the crackpot edge of Nietzche's widely rebutted social economics? Next you're going to tell me Burke was right. If you need someone to tell you it's all right, no fear! You've got a lot of other options. Maybe, go to a site like SSC.
  - 0db532a0 7y ago
    I had never heard of NRx until you mentioned it. I generally try to stay away from selling my identity to a single word, or a set of words. Yes, I am not a social marxism conspiracy theorist at all. Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make. I will rephrase in a more literal way for you to understand, in a way more difficult to avoid: Without resorting to claims of crackpotness, conspiracy theory, sympathising with vocal minorities and Nietzsche's ideas' supposed negative consequences on society, what exactly do you disagree with about using Nietzsche to understand our moral psychology, and specifically about the sources I have given in this post and in my other submissions? I envy you like I envy god-believers. It must be nice to believe and fit in.
    - KirinDave 7y ago
      > I envy you like I envy god-believers. It must be nice to believe and fit in. Yeah it must be really difficult being so smart. This is a compelling and powerful argument that is not only relevant, but also persuasive. > Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make. You've not made one, nor will you. I hope you have a happy evening.
0db532a0 7y ago
What the fuck is NRx, mate? Do you even Wittgenstein [1]? Check you nextly! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_game_(philosophy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_game_(philosophy)
- KirinDave 7y ago
  I don't understand why you think I believe in coincidences of that magnitude.