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I would imagine a lot of people don't want to take LSD because of difficulty guaranteeing that it is actually real LSD-25 and not some other derivative. I thin

I would imagine a lot of people don't want to take LSD because of difficulty guaranteeing that it is actually real LSD-25 and not some other derivative. I think the American CIA was responsible for spiking the LSD supply with more dangerous alternatives at one point. And now, there are plenty of variants that are either mixed in and then sold, or sold directly as LSD, when they are actually not. Testing is difficult because the common tests only test for the presence of LSD-25, not the purity, and not for the presence of substitutes. Someone who mixed the pure substance with some more dangerous derivative would be impossible to detect without lab grade tools. This has stopped me from trying LSD for my whole life. I assume there are many others that don't want to take mind altering substances with unknown purity.

collyw 7y ago
There is plenty of information on the internet on how to grow mushrooms.
melq 7y ago
What sort of impurities are you concerned with? Are there many drugs that are psychoactive at such low (microgram) doses?
- adrusi 7y ago
  Fentanyl is active in a range very similar to LSD, it's the biggest concern. 25i-NBOMe is a drug similar in effect to LSD, but with a somewhat worse track record for safety. It's not likely to harm you, and unless you're fairly familiar with LSD, you might not notice the difference, but it has caused deaths due to severe vasoconstriction, which hasn't happened with LSD, even though many more people have used the latter. It's requires larger doses than LSD does, but it's still active at doses well under a milligram, and is usually sold on blotter paper just like LSD is. Strychnine is also active in the LSD dose range. There was definitely some propaganda about strychnine-tainted LSD in the 70s, so it's hard to know if this has ever happened, or if it's just urban legend. But it's chemically plausible. Fortunately, you don't have to just pray that your blotter doesn't have fentanyl in it. You can buy chemical test kits on the clear market and rule out all the culprits that should be cause for concern, and test that your blotter contains LSD (or at least a compound containing an indole group...). See https://www.reddit.com/r/ReagentTesting/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ReagentTesting/ for links to vendors and more information.
  - cc-d 7y ago
    >Fentanyl is active in a range very similar to LSD, it's the biggest concern. Not orally, the BA of actual fentanyl is abysmal orally (although some fentanyl analogs are definitely comparable). LSD is never contaminated with fentanyl to begin with. Some fentnayl analogs have been distributed in paper tab form by research chemical vendors, but LSD is never 'contaminated' with fentanyl. A test kit, or even just ingesting the tab slowly in pieces, eliminates this (non)risk entirely. >25i-NBOMe is a drug similar in effect to LSD, but with a somewhat worse track record for safety Thankfully this risk has decreased over the past few years, as real LSD is cheaper, and easier to find, than phenthylamine-based RCs being sold as LSD. You might encounter ALD-52, 1P-lSD, ETH-LAD, etc being sold as LSD, but these are just LSD analogs and have pretty much identical safety/effect profiles. Also, swallowing the tabs make some of the more common RC LSD imitators completely inactive, whereas LSD will still be absorbed perfectly. At the end of the day, if you're concerned about this, you can buy a $10 test kit. >Strychnine is also active in the LSD dose range. There was definitely some propaganda about strychnine-tainted LSD in the 70s, so it's hard to know if this has ever happened, or if it's just urban legend. But it's chemically plausible. This doesn't happen. Also, no it is not chemically possible. The amount of strychine required to seriously hurt somebody would be extremely obvious on LSD tabs. Like it actually isn't even possible to fit enough strychine to seriously hurt somebody on a lsd tab in a discreet manner . The choice of strychine here as a poison shows that whoever originally spread this nonsense has zero understanding of chemistry. >Fortunately, you don't have to just pray that your blotter doesn't have fentanyl in it. Once again, this isn't a serious risk. It's extremely rare to find fentanyl in this form now anyway, as most research chemical vendors no longer stock fentanyl analogs. And, again, just consuming the tab slowly or testing it makes this a non-risk. Also generally there is a very little overlap in dealers who sell both fentnanyl and lsd, these drugs attract very different crowds.
mml 7y ago
I've read that street lsd-25 is vanishingly rare. it doesn't keep (degrades under UV), and it's hard to make (why make lsd when you can make meth instead?). I'm told much street lsd is other stuff. Dunno if true.

collyw 7y ago

There is plenty of information on the internet on how to grow mushrooms.

melq 7y ago

What sort of impurities are you concerned with? Are there many drugs that are psychoactive at such low (microgram) doses?

adrusi 7y ago
Fentanyl is active in a range very similar to LSD, it's the biggest concern. 25i-NBOMe is a drug similar in effect to LSD, but with a somewhat worse track record for safety. It's not likely to harm you, and unless you're fairly familiar with LSD, you might not notice the difference, but it has caused deaths due to severe vasoconstriction, which hasn't happened with LSD, even though many more people have used the latter. It's requires larger doses than LSD does, but it's still active at doses well under a milligram, and is usually sold on blotter paper just like LSD is. Strychnine is also active in the LSD dose range. There was definitely some propaganda about strychnine-tainted LSD in the 70s, so it's hard to know if this has ever happened, or if it's just urban legend. But it's chemically plausible. Fortunately, you don't have to just pray that your blotter doesn't have fentanyl in it. You can buy chemical test kits on the clear market and rule out all the culprits that should be cause for concern, and test that your blotter contains LSD (or at least a compound containing an indole group...). See https://www.reddit.com/r/ReagentTesting/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ReagentTesting/ for links to vendors and more information.
- cc-d 7y ago
  >Fentanyl is active in a range very similar to LSD, it's the biggest concern. Not orally, the BA of actual fentanyl is abysmal orally (although some fentanyl analogs are definitely comparable). LSD is never contaminated with fentanyl to begin with. Some fentnayl analogs have been distributed in paper tab form by research chemical vendors, but LSD is never 'contaminated' with fentanyl. A test kit, or even just ingesting the tab slowly in pieces, eliminates this (non)risk entirely. >25i-NBOMe is a drug similar in effect to LSD, but with a somewhat worse track record for safety Thankfully this risk has decreased over the past few years, as real LSD is cheaper, and easier to find, than phenthylamine-based RCs being sold as LSD. You might encounter ALD-52, 1P-lSD, ETH-LAD, etc being sold as LSD, but these are just LSD analogs and have pretty much identical safety/effect profiles. Also, swallowing the tabs make some of the more common RC LSD imitators completely inactive, whereas LSD will still be absorbed perfectly. At the end of the day, if you're concerned about this, you can buy a $10 test kit. >Strychnine is also active in the LSD dose range. There was definitely some propaganda about strychnine-tainted LSD in the 70s, so it's hard to know if this has ever happened, or if it's just urban legend. But it's chemically plausible. This doesn't happen. Also, no it is not chemically possible. The amount of strychine required to seriously hurt somebody would be extremely obvious on LSD tabs. Like it actually isn't even possible to fit enough strychine to seriously hurt somebody on a lsd tab in a discreet manner . The choice of strychine here as a poison shows that whoever originally spread this nonsense has zero understanding of chemistry. >Fortunately, you don't have to just pray that your blotter doesn't have fentanyl in it. Once again, this isn't a serious risk. It's extremely rare to find fentanyl in this form now anyway, as most research chemical vendors no longer stock fentanyl analogs. And, again, just consuming the tab slowly or testing it makes this a non-risk. Also generally there is a very little overlap in dealers who sell both fentnanyl and lsd, these drugs attract very different crowds.

mml 7y ago

I've read that street lsd-25 is vanishingly rare. it doesn't keep (degrades under UV), and it's hard to make (why make lsd when you can make meth instead?). I'm told much street lsd is other stuff. Dunno if true.