4 ms·

With all respect to you as someone who is likely commenting in good faith, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I have mental health problems tha

With all respect to you as someone who is likely commenting in good faith, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I have mental health problems that are all but solved by the medication I take, and I also have extensive experience with hallucinogens. Without the medication, I am as you describe: anhedonic, with a flat affect and little patience for, well, life. Hallucinogens also have exactly zero dulling effect, and the "glow" aftereffect from them is not a numbing, either. On the contrary, it's a deep and abiding understanding of place in the universe and sense of self. YMMV, obviously.

BiteCode_dev 7y ago
I can attest to that. Micro-dosing is only a bonus. In fact, I regularly stop taking them when I don't feel like it, and I'm just back to my normal self, not lower. No negative side effect, no dependencies, and it helps taking care of yourself: eating better, sleeping more, etc. But OP is right on one thing: it is not a substance the body needs. It's an artificially induced condition, and it's why it's important to take days off. Sometimes I take a week, not just the 1/2 days of the most popular protocols. This way you can see if you are improving deep inside, and that it's not just the drug saying you are fine. Plus those substance allow it: no hard in stopping cold turkey. It's beautiful how positive this stuff is. Up to now, I can attest than, yes, even when I'm not taking it, I'm better. Mostly because when I take it, I live a better life.
- __blockcipher__ 7y ago
  On the topic of micro-dosing, I microdosed around 3-6ug LSS/day for 1.5 years. Stopped abruptly one day and haven’t used it since. So echoing your sentiment about how easy it is to stop.
- damontal 7y ago
  Where do you get lsd for microdosing? Do you have to know someone? How do you know what it is you're getting? Or do you make it yourself?
  - alexgandy 7y ago
    Most people get LSD (and just about any other hallucinogens/empathogens) from the dark web.
  - newnewpdro 7y ago
    Not OP but can confirm the exact same experience when microdosing psilocybin. I get them from friends who grow them. Spores are not illegal, they can be bought online and sent through the mail. I think of all the illicit activities one can discuss with friends/neighbors/coworkers, magic mushrooms is the least concerning and most likely to result in a positive connection. At least here on the west coast anyways, lots of people have access to mushrooms and consume them occasionally. You just have to develop trusting relationships with people around you, and that's generally regarded as a good thing anyways. It's not too difficult to ask some people if they want to go camping, and while out in the woods bring up a curiosity about magic mushrooms. Anyone who goes camping with you is very likely to be open to the idea if not pull a bag of shrooms out of their backpack on the spot.
  - BiteCode_dev 7y ago
    I micro dose with psilocybin, and order on zamnesia in amsterdam since i'm in europe.
moretai 7y ago
How long do you feel like this before you feel you have to hallucinate again?
- skyyler 7y ago
  Hallucinogens are often thought of as a way to cheat your way to mindfulness. But really, they're more like a trailer or advertisement for mindfulness. If you get lucky, you only need to take them once.
- dwaltrip 7y ago
  It's not about hallucinating. The important thing is that it provides a powerful soft reset on highly-habituated thought patterns, reactions, and perspectives. People who experience depression and anxiety often times have ingrained negative or counter-productive thought patterns and micro reactions that are very difficult to overcome. Sometimes even noticing these patterns is quite tricky. It makes a ton of sense to me that psilocybin, especially with the guidance of skilled therapists, can have this kind of incredible impact.
- thenewwazoo 7y ago
  How long do you go between really good books? Or vacations to see beautiful scenery? Or really insightful conversations with good friends? Or enjoying a new perspective on a problem? Or between occasional visits with a therapist? Hallucinogens can be (ab)used as a tool, like many others. The benefit is insight. (again, ymmv)
bjt2n3904 7y ago
Just as respectfully -- neither does anyone in this thread. People are speaking very confidently about things that they have no basis to. For instance, are your mental health problems really solved, or only mitigated? If you stop taking the hallucinogens and the problems return, they aren't solved. Obviously, I'm happy that you're suffering less. However, I'm highly skeptical that hallucinogens "solve" problems, instead of merely masking them. Hallucinogens may provide you with a feeling that you have a place in the universe, but they cannot provide an actual place for you. It takes work to find and create purpose in life. You can't create purpose with pills anymore than you can create strength with synthol injections. Which is better -- a feeling backed by reality, or a feeling based on chemical reactions in your brain induced by a substance?
- dwaltrip 7y ago
  > Which is better -- a feeling backed by reality, or a feeling based on chemical reactions in your brain induced by a substance? There are a hell of a lot of assumptions packed into this sentence. I encourage you to go research the current understanding of mental health. There is a lot we don't understand, but I think what we do understand certainly doesn't support the perspective you are presenting.

BiteCode_dev 7y ago

I can attest to that. Micro-dosing is only a bonus. In fact, I regularly stop taking them when I don't feel like it, and I'm just back to my normal self, not lower. No negative side effect, no dependencies, and it helps taking care of yourself: eating better, sleeping more, etc. But OP is right on one thing: it is not a substance the body needs. It's an artificially induced condition, and it's why it's important to take days off. Sometimes I take a week, not just the 1/2 days of the most popular protocols. This way you can see if you are improving deep inside, and that it's not just the drug saying you are fine. Plus those substance allow it: no hard in stopping cold turkey. It's beautiful how positive this stuff is. Up to now, I can attest than, yes, even when I'm not taking it, I'm better. Mostly because when I take it, I live a better life.

__blockcipher__ 7y ago
On the topic of micro-dosing, I microdosed around 3-6ug LSS/day for 1.5 years. Stopped abruptly one day and haven’t used it since. So echoing your sentiment about how easy it is to stop.
damontal 7y ago
Where do you get lsd for microdosing? Do you have to know someone? How do you know what it is you're getting? Or do you make it yourself?
- alexgandy 7y ago
  Most people get LSD (and just about any other hallucinogens/empathogens) from the dark web.
- newnewpdro 7y ago
  Not OP but can confirm the exact same experience when microdosing psilocybin. I get them from friends who grow them. Spores are not illegal, they can be bought online and sent through the mail. I think of all the illicit activities one can discuss with friends/neighbors/coworkers, magic mushrooms is the least concerning and most likely to result in a positive connection. At least here on the west coast anyways, lots of people have access to mushrooms and consume them occasionally. You just have to develop trusting relationships with people around you, and that's generally regarded as a good thing anyways. It's not too difficult to ask some people if they want to go camping, and while out in the woods bring up a curiosity about magic mushrooms. Anyone who goes camping with you is very likely to be open to the idea if not pull a bag of shrooms out of their backpack on the spot.
- BiteCode_dev 7y ago
  I micro dose with psilocybin, and order on zamnesia in amsterdam since i'm in europe.

moretai 7y ago

How long do you feel like this before you feel you have to hallucinate again?

skyyler 7y ago
Hallucinogens are often thought of as a way to cheat your way to mindfulness. But really, they're more like a trailer or advertisement for mindfulness. If you get lucky, you only need to take them once.
dwaltrip 7y ago
It's not about hallucinating. The important thing is that it provides a powerful soft reset on highly-habituated thought patterns, reactions, and perspectives. People who experience depression and anxiety often times have ingrained negative or counter-productive thought patterns and micro reactions that are very difficult to overcome. Sometimes even noticing these patterns is quite tricky. It makes a ton of sense to me that psilocybin, especially with the guidance of skilled therapists, can have this kind of incredible impact.
thenewwazoo 7y ago
How long do you go between really good books? Or vacations to see beautiful scenery? Or really insightful conversations with good friends? Or enjoying a new perspective on a problem? Or between occasional visits with a therapist? Hallucinogens can be (ab)used as a tool, like many others. The benefit is insight. (again, ymmv)

bjt2n3904 7y ago

Just as respectfully -- neither does anyone in this thread. People are speaking very confidently about things that they have no basis to. For instance, are your mental health problems really solved, or only mitigated? If you stop taking the hallucinogens and the problems return, they aren't solved. Obviously, I'm happy that you're suffering less. However, I'm highly skeptical that hallucinogens "solve" problems, instead of merely masking them. Hallucinogens may provide you with a feeling that you have a place in the universe, but they cannot provide an actual place for you. It takes work to find and create purpose in life. You can't create purpose with pills anymore than you can create strength with synthol injections. Which is better -- a feeling backed by reality, or a feeling based on chemical reactions in your brain induced by a substance?

dwaltrip 7y ago
> Which is better -- a feeling backed by reality, or a feeling based on chemical reactions in your brain induced by a substance? There are a hell of a lot of assumptions packed into this sentence. I encourage you to go research the current understanding of mental health. There is a lot we don't understand, but I think what we do understand certainly doesn't support the perspective you are presenting.