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Both sentiments are pointed in the same direction - more freedom. Also, Blizzard, South Park, NBA are part of popular culture in the west. Cooperation with Chi

Both sentiments are pointed in the same direction - more freedom. Also, Blizzard, South Park, NBA are part of popular culture in the west. Cooperation with China is endangering that culture, so you see backlash. Standards related to RISC-V are not part of popular culture and there is no danger of Chinese censorship. There is however danger of USA protectionism. And yes - I can see Americans using microchip intellectual property against Europeans. EU is right there on the list of trade foes with China and Russia according to USA president.

swiley 7y ago
I’m all for cooperation with China and the diminishment of national culture (not forgetting it but also accepting others) and a better understood global culture. What I’m not ok with (and why I think there’s backlash toward the cooperation with China by these companies) is the way the Chinese government treats people. Harvesting organs from political prisoners and the violence toward protesters isn’t ok. Ever. I don’t care if it’s Trump or Merkel or Xi that’s doing it it’s not ok and that’s not something people should cooperate with.
some_random 7y ago
> USA protectionism Is it just maybe possible that the US public is waking up to the ongoing genocide, ethnic cleansings, and widespread human rights violations in China, which may lead to the state being sanctioned like so many other despicable regimes?
- linuxftw 7y ago
  No. The average person in the US doesn't care about these things or even know about them. What is finally starting to make sense is that other countries have next to no regulations, and literal sweat shops, and US workers are feeling the effects these are having. IE, it's all about money.
- wsy 7y ago
  No, because then US would stop doing business with Saudi-Arabia.
  - some_random 7y ago
    The fact that you consider the two similar betrays some pretty serious ignorance.
    - cyphar 7y ago
      The US backs (either financially, politically, or militarily) 70% of the world's dictatorships -- many of which were placed into power after US-organised coups overthrew their democratically-elected leaders. Yemen has open-air slave markets, thanks to the US's bombings and destabilisation of the region. The point is that "we are doing the humane thing" is not an argument that the US has legitimate access to anymore. Also let's not forget that Saudi Arabia treats women as third-class citizens. Let's not pretend they're some paragon of virtue.

swiley 7y ago

I’m all for cooperation with China and the diminishment of national culture (not forgetting it but also accepting others) and a better understood global culture. What I’m not ok with (and why I think there’s backlash toward the cooperation with China by these companies) is the way the Chinese government treats people. Harvesting organs from political prisoners and the violence toward protesters isn’t ok. Ever. I don’t care if it’s Trump or Merkel or Xi that’s doing it it’s not ok and that’s not something people should cooperate with.

some_random 7y ago

> USA protectionism Is it just maybe possible that the US public is waking up to the ongoing genocide, ethnic cleansings, and widespread human rights violations in China, which may lead to the state being sanctioned like so many other despicable regimes?

linuxftw 7y ago
No. The average person in the US doesn't care about these things or even know about them. What is finally starting to make sense is that other countries have next to no regulations, and literal sweat shops, and US workers are feeling the effects these are having. IE, it's all about money.
wsy 7y ago
No, because then US would stop doing business with Saudi-Arabia.
- some_random 7y ago
  The fact that you consider the two similar betrays some pretty serious ignorance.
  - cyphar 7y ago
    The US backs (either financially, politically, or militarily) 70% of the world's dictatorships -- many of which were placed into power after US-organised coups overthrew their democratically-elected leaders. Yemen has open-air slave markets, thanks to the US's bombings and destabilisation of the region. The point is that "we are doing the humane thing" is not an argument that the US has legitimate access to anymore. Also let's not forget that Saudi Arabia treats women as third-class citizens. Let's not pretend they're some paragon of virtue.