4 ms·

Yes, Google uses Google Calendar internally. Signing up for email alerts about somebody else's calendar is definitely weird. But the information you'd get is t

Yes, Google uses Google Calendar internally. Signing up for email alerts about somebody else's calendar is definitely weird. But the information you'd get is the same as someone would get if they checked your calendar manually, which is an expected and normal part of Google's culture.

koheripbal 7y ago
No, it is more like checking it manually every single day. ...which is would be akin to following someone in public and filming them. Technically, it's all in public, but it is no less likely to make people feel stalked and unsafe. The underlying part here is that these employees were using the notion of "unions" to organize _politically_. ...and their willingness to act against fellow employees and leak company documents demonstrates just how dirty they would have become had they been allowed to continue. Personally, I don't think they cared at all about worker rights beyond their desire to advocate their politics.
- lonelappde 7y ago
  They have only announced circumstantial evidence that the so-called "stalking" was related to the leak. Remember, the so-called stalking was looking at information that the owner chose to share with the company and didn't mark the "private" flag on (which is available as a default to apply to all meetings).
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- sodosopa 7y ago
  Checking an employee’s public internal calendar every day, the bastards. /s Why were they using company resources for personal meetings?
  - markstos 7y ago
    If I have a doctor's appointment in the middle of the day, I might add it to my personal calendar with full details, but I still need to add an entry to my work calendar to show I'll be out of the office, possibly with a generic title like "Medical Appt".
    - tomjen3 7y ago
      I wouldn't do that personally. It would say "Busy" and nothing else - that is all the company needs to know.
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    > Why were they using company resources for personal meetings? Probably because it represents time that are unavailable for work and, in many cases, because their are people at work (including their boss) entitled to know the reason, and who probably established that as the workflow for sharing the information.
    - _wolfie_ 7y ago
      Yeah, and that's why you put full details in your personal calendar and into the work one "Doctor's appointment" or something without expanding on that any further.
  - tylerl 7y ago
    > Why were they using company resources for personal meetings? So that coworkers don't schedule you for meetings during your doctor appointments.
    - sodosopa 7y ago
      Add blockers on your calendar for that time.
sodosopa 7y ago
It’s normal in a lot of companies. I typically have my bosses and my team lead’s calendar up throughout the day. Helps to fill in the gaps and get a feel for questions I’ll ask later
- drdeadringer 7y ago
  A time ago I used to not put anything onto my work calender because "it didn't matter" and "no one cared". Meeting at 2pm? That's a postit note and that was good enough for me. Somewhere along the line, people started scheduling me for events in conflict with other events. Why? My online visible calender was free and clear into eternity so obviously I have nothing going on at 2pm. Explaining not being able to be in three places at once got old fast. So now I have an eye toward using the calendar "defensively". Here's when I usually come in, here's when I usually clock out, here's when I usually take lunch, here's that weekly meeting I have to attend for someone else's giggles, here's when I'm helping Jimmy with this thing, here's when Samantha is helping me with the other thing. You want a meeting? Now the calendar begins a negotiation. I may or may not like it, but the tipping point has come and gone for me.
antpol 7y ago
If you are periodically checking coworkers manually and then said coworkers got doxed externally you would be in the same troubles with the company for creating hostile workplace

koheripbal 7y ago

No, it is more like checking it manually every single day. ...which is would be akin to following someone in public and filming them. Technically, it's all in public, but it is no less likely to make people feel stalked and unsafe. The underlying part here is that these employees were using the notion of "unions" to organize _politically_. ...and their willingness to act against fellow employees and leak company documents demonstrates just how dirty they would have become had they been allowed to continue. Personally, I don't think they cared at all about worker rights beyond their desire to advocate their politics.

lonelappde 7y ago
They have only announced circumstantial evidence that the so-called "stalking" was related to the leak. Remember, the so-called stalking was looking at information that the owner chose to share with the company and didn't mark the "private" flag on (which is available as a default to apply to all meetings).
deleted 7y ago
[deleted]
deleted 7y ago
[deleted]
sodosopa 7y ago
Checking an employee’s public internal calendar every day, the bastards. /s Why were they using company resources for personal meetings?
- markstos 7y ago
  If I have a doctor's appointment in the middle of the day, I might add it to my personal calendar with full details, but I still need to add an entry to my work calendar to show I'll be out of the office, possibly with a generic title like "Medical Appt".
  - tomjen3 7y ago
    I wouldn't do that personally. It would say "Busy" and nothing else - that is all the company needs to know.
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > Why were they using company resources for personal meetings? Probably because it represents time that are unavailable for work and, in many cases, because their are people at work (including their boss) entitled to know the reason, and who probably established that as the workflow for sharing the information.
  - _wolfie_ 7y ago
    Yeah, and that's why you put full details in your personal calendar and into the work one "Doctor's appointment" or something without expanding on that any further.
- tylerl 7y ago
  > Why were they using company resources for personal meetings? So that coworkers don't schedule you for meetings during your doctor appointments.
  - sodosopa 7y ago
    Add blockers on your calendar for that time.

sodosopa 7y ago

It’s normal in a lot of companies. I typically have my bosses and my team lead’s calendar up throughout the day. Helps to fill in the gaps and get a feel for questions I’ll ask later

drdeadringer 7y ago
A time ago I used to not put anything onto my work calender because "it didn't matter" and "no one cared". Meeting at 2pm? That's a postit note and that was good enough for me. Somewhere along the line, people started scheduling me for events in conflict with other events. Why? My online visible calender was free and clear into eternity so obviously I have nothing going on at 2pm. Explaining not being able to be in three places at once got old fast. So now I have an eye toward using the calendar "defensively". Here's when I usually come in, here's when I usually clock out, here's when I usually take lunch, here's that weekly meeting I have to attend for someone else's giggles, here's when I'm helping Jimmy with this thing, here's when Samantha is helping me with the other thing. You want a meeting? Now the calendar begins a negotiation. I may or may not like it, but the tipping point has come and gone for me.

antpol 7y ago

If you are periodically checking coworkers manually and then said coworkers got doxed externally you would be in the same troubles with the company for creating hostile workplace