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Anyone else thinks Google is getting too much protests, walkouts, processions compared to other big companies like MS in its peak days? It even missed a defense

by z92 7y ago

Anyone else thinks Google is getting too much protests, walkouts, processions compared to other big companies like MS in its peak days? It even missed a defense contract of $10B because its employees didn't like it, which MS picked up happily. I wonder how it's like working there now a days.

googleisevil6 7y ago
Google wouldn't have won that contract anyway. Contrary to the hn echo chamber Google is a distant 3rd in cloud and that too because of brand recognition. Their offerings are subpar
- tr33house 7y ago
  Care to elaborate more especially on the subpar issue? Is it related to SLA? I thought their ml cloud offerings were superior
- goatinaboat 7y ago
  4th. Everyone always forgets Aliyun. Google is an also-ran in cloud and will probably scrap it at some point. Look out for it on https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
  - googleisevil6 7y ago
    How much revenue is Aliyun? And what about the second in Chinese? (Tencent?) I do hope Aliyun starts offering in the US soon- would benefit competition.
    - wanghq 7y ago
      > In 2018, in the Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) segment of the cloud, Alibaba Cloud had 43% market share while Tencent had an 11.5% market share in 2018. source: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alibaba-vs-tencent-battle-cloud-013100994.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alibaba-vs-tencent-battle-clo... Aliyun (Alibaba Cloud) is doing business in US: https://alibabacloud.com/ https://alibabacloud.com/
elicash 7y ago
People think worker organizing is a sign of worker discontent. Sometimes it is. But mostly it's a sign of worker energy. It's a sign that people care about improving their workplace and care a ton about what their company stands for and represents and want a say in it. Workers LEAVING a company is a sign of worker discontent, especially when they could get a job elsewhere.
saalweachter 7y ago
I honestly don't notice this stuff at work, and find out about most of it from HN, but I'm a middle-aged white guy in the New York office, so YMMV? My experience is that Google hasn't really changed much over the last 10 years, beyond a few superficial details (mailing lists -> memegen) and growing in size, with the expected difficulties that brings.
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Jamwinner 7y ago
I honestly dont see enough critical of Google. Here most are downvoted, and they are largely ignored in the regular media.

by z92 7y ago

googleisevil6 7y ago

Google wouldn't have won that contract anyway. Contrary to the hn echo chamber Google is a distant 3rd in cloud and that too because of brand recognition. Their offerings are subpar

tr33house 7y ago
Care to elaborate more especially on the subpar issue? Is it related to SLA? I thought their ml cloud offerings were superior
goatinaboat 7y ago
4th. Everyone always forgets Aliyun. Google is an also-ran in cloud and will probably scrap it at some point. Look out for it on https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
- googleisevil6 7y ago
  How much revenue is Aliyun? And what about the second in Chinese? (Tencent?) I do hope Aliyun starts offering in the US soon- would benefit competition.
  - wanghq 7y ago
    > In 2018, in the Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) segment of the cloud, Alibaba Cloud had 43% market share while Tencent had an 11.5% market share in 2018. source: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alibaba-vs-tencent-battle-cloud-013100994.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alibaba-vs-tencent-battle-clo... Aliyun (Alibaba Cloud) is doing business in US: https://alibabacloud.com/ https://alibabacloud.com/

elicash 7y ago

People think worker organizing is a sign of worker discontent. Sometimes it is. But mostly it's a sign of worker energy. It's a sign that people care about improving their workplace and care a ton about what their company stands for and represents and want a say in it. Workers LEAVING a company is a sign of worker discontent, especially when they could get a job elsewhere.

saalweachter 7y ago

I honestly don't notice this stuff at work, and find out about most of it from HN, but I'm a middle-aged white guy in the New York office, so YMMV? My experience is that Google hasn't really changed much over the last 10 years, beyond a few superficial details (mailing lists -> memegen) and growing in size, with the expected difficulties that brings.

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Jamwinner 7y ago

I honestly dont see enough critical of Google. Here most are downvoted, and they are largely ignored in the regular media.