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Can you attach a source? Edit: Why are people downvoting me for asking for a source?

calcifer 7y ago
https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employers/discriminating-against-employees-because-their-union https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employers/d...
- leereeves 7y ago
  The NLRB also supports neya's point; companies can prohibit union organizing activites that interfere with work. > Working time is for work, so your employer may maintain and enforce non-discriminatory rules limiting solicitation and distribution, except that your employer cannot prohibit you from talking about or soliciting for a union during non-work time, such as before or after work or during break times; or from distributing union literature during non-work time, in non-work areas, such as parking lots or break rooms. Also, restrictions on your efforts to communicate with co-workers cannot be discriminatory. For example, your employer cannot prohibit you from talking about the union during working time if it permits you to talk about other non-work-related matters during working time. https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employees/i-am-not-represented-union/your-rights-during-union-organizing https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employees/i...
  - vertex-four 7y ago
    > Also, restrictions on your efforts to communicate with co-workers cannot be discriminatory. For example, your employer cannot prohibit you from talking about the union during working time if it permits you to talk about other non-work-related matters during working time. I imagine that Googlers are generally permitted to socialise during work time, so they also get to unionise during work time. I even imagine they sometimes use work-provided services to organise non-work-related activity and this is permitted by the company.
    - leereeves 7y ago
      I'm fairly sure that quote means workers can talk about the union while working, not stop working and stage a demonstration during work hours. That said, I do wonder if the fired workers could argue that they were merely taking an unscheduled break (permitted under Google's flextime policy) when demonstrating.
      - vertex-four 7y ago
        Who stopped work and staged a demonstration during work hours? The article doesn’t state that anyone did. 200 people demonstrated on a Friday, but it’s quite possible that they had that day off. Nobody was fired, supposedly, in relation to that demonstration.
        leereeves 7y ago
        > Nobody was fired, supposedly, in relation to that demonstration. According to Google, but the workers are claiming otherwise. > but it’s quite possible that they had that day off. Indeed. In fact, with Google's flextime policy, can't they simply choose to have that day off?
      - gjm11 7y ago
        Stopping working and staging demonstrations is pretty core to what unions do.
        leereeves 7y ago
        You're right of course, but not all such actions are protected. Intermittent strikes, for example, are not.

https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employers/discriminating-against-employees-because-their-union https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employers/d...

leereeves 7y ago
The NLRB also supports neya's point; companies can prohibit union organizing activites that interfere with work. > Working time is for work, so your employer may maintain and enforce non-discriminatory rules limiting solicitation and distribution, except that your employer cannot prohibit you from talking about or soliciting for a union during non-work time, such as before or after work or during break times; or from distributing union literature during non-work time, in non-work areas, such as parking lots or break rooms. Also, restrictions on your efforts to communicate with co-workers cannot be discriminatory. For example, your employer cannot prohibit you from talking about the union during working time if it permits you to talk about other non-work-related matters during working time. https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employees/i-am-not-represented-union/your-rights-during-union-organizing https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employees/i...
- vertex-four 7y ago
  > Also, restrictions on your efforts to communicate with co-workers cannot be discriminatory. For example, your employer cannot prohibit you from talking about the union during working time if it permits you to talk about other non-work-related matters during working time. I imagine that Googlers are generally permitted to socialise during work time, so they also get to unionise during work time. I even imagine they sometimes use work-provided services to organise non-work-related activity and this is permitted by the company.
  - leereeves 7y ago
    I'm fairly sure that quote means workers can talk about the union while working, not stop working and stage a demonstration during work hours. That said, I do wonder if the fired workers could argue that they were merely taking an unscheduled break (permitted under Google's flextime policy) when demonstrating.
    - vertex-four 7y ago
      Who stopped work and staged a demonstration during work hours? The article doesn’t state that anyone did. 200 people demonstrated on a Friday, but it’s quite possible that they had that day off. Nobody was fired, supposedly, in relation to that demonstration.
      - leereeves 7y ago
        > Nobody was fired, supposedly, in relation to that demonstration. According to Google, but the workers are claiming otherwise. > but it’s quite possible that they had that day off. Indeed. In fact, with Google's flextime policy, can't they simply choose to have that day off?
    - gjm11 7y ago
      Stopping working and staging demonstrations is pretty core to what unions do.
      - leereeves 7y ago
        You're right of course, but not all such actions are protected. Intermittent strikes, for example, are not.