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can we get a tldr on this?

barrkel 16y ago
jiganti was scammed by X jiganti was helped by mahmud yesterday, lrm242 investigated X and turned up addresses (Chinese) etc. from DNS lrm242 is now being libelled on complaints forums, as of yesterday X appears to have several HN accounts: pinksoda, sinkfloat, and BrianHolt Vaguely interestingly, Totiboti (now auto-dead - you need to turn on showdead to see his posts) was warning about the guy repeatedly: http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=Totiboti http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=Totiboti
- fakelvis 16y ago
  I see a lot of upset and accusations without many facts from either side. Without the pertinent information being clearly presented (read: facts and facts only, no accusations), it seems that we can't make an informed decision on what is really going on. I'm happy to be corrected, and I am sorry that this has happened to you, but we must realize that there is a huge difference between a scam and a private business transaction that was conducted without proper due diligence that ended in one person feeling cheated. Which of these two has occurred here is difficult to tell with the facts being presented, and without us playing amateur detective. As raganwald said, "While anyone who invests money and gets nothing in return has my sympathy, I don't see the relevance of a private business transaction to HN." [1] I hope this gets sorted out for you, and please correct me if I'm wrong. [1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2163675 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2163675
- pyre 16y ago
  It's of note that those comments were on a HN story that was posted by pinksoda, is hosted on sinkfloat.com, and has BrianHolt responding in the comments as the subject of the article. That alone seems to link them all together and make the whole thing fishy.
  - taylorbuley 16y ago
    It looks like he's responding to each individual comment thread, as if to try to get people to notice via their threads link
- sighautodead 16y ago
  It's disappointing, but unsurprising, that legitimate warnings got auto-dead'd. I know that I wound up on a shitlist simply for not supporting some of the voting mafias on this increasingly noisy site. That said, we can't reasonably expect a fix. It's not in pg's interest to improve the place so long as it's generating leads for YC, and while many of us might have nostalgia for smaller times, increased traffic means pg's fishing out of a bigger pie these days.
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jacques_chester 16y ago
tl;dr: HN is being dragged into a brewing defamation case. One way or the other.
oomkiller 16y ago
You mean a summary?
- erikb 16y ago
  Just because a HN user really should be able to look up unknown things with google easily: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tldr http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tldr
  - smoyer 16y ago
    That link is to tl;dr ... I think for many HN readers, TLDR is a top-level domain registry.

jiganti was scammed by X jiganti was helped by mahmud yesterday, lrm242 investigated X and turned up addresses (Chinese) etc. from DNS lrm242 is now being libelled on complaints forums, as of yesterday X appears to have several HN accounts: pinksoda, sinkfloat, and BrianHolt Vaguely interestingly, Totiboti (now auto-dead - you need to turn on showdead to see his posts) was warning about the guy repeatedly: http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=Totiboti http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=Totiboti

fakelvis 16y ago
I see a lot of upset and accusations without many facts from either side. Without the pertinent information being clearly presented (read: facts and facts only, no accusations), it seems that we can't make an informed decision on what is really going on. I'm happy to be corrected, and I am sorry that this has happened to you, but we must realize that there is a huge difference between a scam and a private business transaction that was conducted without proper due diligence that ended in one person feeling cheated. Which of these two has occurred here is difficult to tell with the facts being presented, and without us playing amateur detective. As raganwald said, "While anyone who invests money and gets nothing in return has my sympathy, I don't see the relevance of a private business transaction to HN." [1] I hope this gets sorted out for you, and please correct me if I'm wrong. [1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2163675 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2163675
pyre 16y ago
It's of note that those comments were on a HN story that was posted by pinksoda, is hosted on sinkfloat.com, and has BrianHolt responding in the comments as the subject of the article. That alone seems to link them all together and make the whole thing fishy.
- taylorbuley 16y ago
  It looks like he's responding to each individual comment thread, as if to try to get people to notice via their threads link
sighautodead 16y ago
It's disappointing, but unsurprising, that legitimate warnings got auto-dead'd. I know that I wound up on a shitlist simply for not supporting some of the voting mafias on this increasingly noisy site. That said, we can't reasonably expect a fix. It's not in pg's interest to improve the place so long as it's generating leads for YC, and while many of us might have nostalgia for smaller times, increased traffic means pg's fishing out of a bigger pie these days.

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jacques_chester 16y ago

tl;dr: HN is being dragged into a brewing defamation case. One way or the other.

oomkiller 16y ago

You mean a summary?

erikb 16y ago
Just because a HN user really should be able to look up unknown things with google easily: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tldr http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tldr
- smoyer 16y ago
  That link is to tl;dr ... I think for many HN readers, TLDR is a top-level domain registry.