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> I understand why some vegans are put off by the idea of eating something cooked on the same grill as actual meat I genuinely have never met a vegan who would
by bscphil 7y ago
> I understand why some vegans are put off by the idea of eating something cooked on the same grill as actual meat
I genuinely have never met a vegan who would be bothered by this, and I know quite a few. If there were still bits of meat on the grill it could still be kind of gross if they came off on the burger I guess, but most would have no problem with it. This strikes me as an extremely rare case, and I don't see any obvious grounds for a lawsuit.
- cageface 7y agoI stopped eating meat long enough ago that I've lost the taste for it and I'm aware of how dirty factory farms and industrial slaughterhouses are so this does gross me out a bit. Would it bother you to eat food that was cooked on a grill that was also used to barbecue dogs? That's how some vegans feel about this. But like I said I think getting some meat alternatives in front of the general public is important enough that I'll live with it.
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- cramjabsyn 7y agoWouldn’t bother me. Dogs, franks, sausages, burgers, steaks, whatever. If they scrape clean the cook surface and make an effort to keep things separated I’m happy.
- cageface 7y agoI mean actual canine dogs, as eaten in a lot of Asian countries.
- bauruine 7y agoI wouldn't care. Rats, insects or something like dog food on the other side would may bother me so I think I get the point.
- quelltext 7y agoPlease list the "a lot of Asian countries".
- tom_mellior 7y agoNot the parent and not taking any side in this discussion, but I was interested in looking this up, so here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog#As_food https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog#As_food "Dog meat is consumed in some East Asian countries, including Korea, China and Vietnam, a practice that dates back to antiquity. It is estimated that 13–16 million dogs are killed and consumed in Asia every year." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat "In the 21st century, dog meat is consumed in some regions of China, South Korea, Vietnam, and Nigeria and it is still eaten or is legal to be eaten in other countries throughout the world. [...] It was estimated in 2014 that worldwide, 25 million dogs are eaten each year by humans." I guess if what you took exception to was the "a lot" part, then three Asian countries might indeed not qualify as "a lot".
- quelltext 7y agoYes, my point was that 3 is not a lot and it's not even that mainstream there. I don't know if there was an additional undertone in the original comment, but either way it was factually wrong. Dog meat consumption is really not that high.
- matt-attack 7y agoWhy be defensive about facts. I don’t think anyone here would look down on those countries for it. The criteria for which exact species of plants animal and fungi is ok to eat is entirely arbitrary and regionally specific.
- cageface 7y agoExactly. I don't understand why Americans, for example, eat pigs every day and think nothing of it but are horrified by the idea of eating a dog. What's the difference?
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- absolute-0 7y agoAt its core, the reality is that all Burger King restaurants are franchises, and with that comes spotty coverage of some of the more punishing details for any canned preparation of their menu items. I think the Impossible Whopper will stick around, but the sacrosanct vegan preparation was just a promotional gimmick to stimulate sales, with no intention of adherence to strict practices. My suspicion was always that the vegan options would be promoted for the initial release, but then it would be quietly walked back to typical preparation steps after the hype died down, and the rate of sandwich sales peaked and leveled off. With that, you get shift managers of individual locations, hamfistedly claiming whatever they think passes for customer service, whether that be keeping the customer lines and drive through windows moving at a brisk pace during lunch and evening rushes, or bending over backwards for the squeakiest wheels in search of grease. Meanwhile, dog meat analogies aside, the cult of the complainiest customers will only win so many victories. The patty might be vegan, and the last mile falls upon the 16 year-old kid behind the counter. Disgust, revulsion, and so on, at the thought of giving any money to a meat selling business that moves titanic quantities of animal carcass should give a vegan pause, before even stepping through the front door, if they're that serious about their belief system. It's fine to level the argument that the tiniest drop of raw sewage is unacceptable in any glass of water, but the reality is that the consumer's physiological fragility remains unharmed and unthreatened in a scenario such as this. The comingled vegan and animal byproducts are a reality, evident by virtue of the very nature establishment itself. You get what you pay for. It's fast food. They won't stop selling the burger, but they might annotate Vegan* with an asterisk. * at participating locations
- croisillon 7y agoSame here, "only" a vegetarian but when my falafel/döner place use the same fork to pick meat and my falafel I cringe a bit (and still eat it, yes).
- ukoki 7y agoSo you are saying you would go to a restaurant that barbecues dogs, provided the dogs were barbecued on a different grill? Surely anyone who thinks meat is that bad would never step foot in a restaurant that cooks meat in the first place, regardless of grills?
- kalleboo 7y agoIf you’re surrounded by a culture that eats dog with every meal you might not have a choice?
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- thescriptkiddie 7y agoI'm not vegan, just vegetarian, but I have some vegan friends and none of them have any problem with eating something cooked on the same grill as meat either. Like the previous poster, I can understand the concern, but I don't think it's a common one.
- zecg 7y ago> I genuinely have never met a vegan who would be bothered by this, and I know quite a few. I am quite bothered by it, to the (IMO reasonable) point of not eating what I'm served and not coming back if I suspect that's the case.
- scandinavegan 7y agoBits of meat sticking to the vegan burger would be a big no-no for me and the vegans that I know! I'm not personally bothered by using the same tools to handle both meat and vegan options, as long as I can't taste it, if we're talking about backyard barbecuing with friends. But I expect more from a company. I had an unpleasant experience a couple of years ago at Subway. I ordered a vegan sub, and the person behind the counter asked if I wanted them to switch their plastic gloves. "No need," I said, because I thought it was a moral question. But when I started eating the sub I could smell meat along the whole bread as I ate it. It was not pleasant when it was two decades since I last had meat, but I was drunk and hungry and finished it anyway.
- lm28469 7y ago> as long as I can't taste it Isn't the whole point of this burger to taste like real meat ?
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- gizmo686 7y agoI had a co-worker who was litterally allergic to meat. She would avoid eating even vegan options in favor of food she packed herself for fear of cross contamination.
- aries1980 7y agoIf she had such a serious allergy, a separate oven probably won't solve the problem for her, but a separate restaurant.