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Big defector, my ass. He doesn’t even have the cojones to call out his old pal Zuck. McNamee is merely profiting from the techlash to get his name out there. S

Big defector, my ass. He doesn’t even have the cojones to call out his old pal Zuck. McNamee is merely profiting from the techlash to get his name out there. Source: went to see him speak at Stanford. Asked him myself during live Q&A, if Facebook is so evil and must be stopped, why doesn’t he call out Zuck for terrible leadership given that Facebook culture and business practice comes straight from the top? His answer, direct quote: “well, he and I are friends.” If this is our big defector, we’ve got serious problems.

majormajor 7y ago
When was that? Large sections of the article are about his being anti-Zuck (by name). (In, granted, a PR-happy way - book, tour... but still.)
- mindgam3 7y ago
  April 2019. See link below for context. To your point: being anti-Zuck in public is a transparent ploy for attention if you're not anti-Zuck in private. https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/roger-mcnamee-facebook-terrible-america https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/roger-mcnamee-facebook...
  - retsibsi 7y ago
    What do you mean by 'in private' here? The criticism in your other comment seems to be based on things that he said at a public or at least semi-public event.
    - mindgam3 7y ago
      In private meaning directly to Zuck, who he claims is his friend. His stated unwillingness to confront Zuck directly means that his entire public narrative is grandstanding at best.
bertil 7y ago
> “well, he and I are friends.” Hasn’t Mark said in public that he didn’t remember McNamee, that he was barely invested early on in Facebook and left when they switched business model? (The whole “You know what’s cool, a billion dollars?” and refusing Yahoo!’s offer was actually a big internal shift that ostracised a lot of early employees and investors.)
- mindgam3 7y ago
  > Hasn’t Mark said in public...? I don’t know, has he? Citing a source would be constructive as I’m not aware of Zuck saying anything publicly about McNamee ever since his PR stunt kicked off.
- Rapzid 7y ago
  Imagine all the trouble we would have been spared if Yahoo purchased Facebook and ran it into the ground with the rest of its portfolio.
  - emiliobumachar 7y ago
    Probably some other social network would have swallowed the world instead. MySpace?
LMYahooTFY 7y ago
So despite referring to him publicly as an authoritarian, you want him to tell you that he hates him? What about the parts of the article where McNamee is, according to the Brian Barth, persuading powerful people to rally against every surveillance capitalist.

majormajor 7y ago

When was that? Large sections of the article are about his being anti-Zuck (by name). (In, granted, a PR-happy way - book, tour... but still.)

mindgam3 7y ago
April 2019. See link below for context. To your point: being anti-Zuck in public is a transparent ploy for attention if you're not anti-Zuck in private. https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/roger-mcnamee-facebook-terrible-america https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/roger-mcnamee-facebook...
- retsibsi 7y ago
  What do you mean by 'in private' here? The criticism in your other comment seems to be based on things that he said at a public or at least semi-public event.
  - mindgam3 7y ago
    In private meaning directly to Zuck, who he claims is his friend. His stated unwillingness to confront Zuck directly means that his entire public narrative is grandstanding at best.

bertil 7y ago

> “well, he and I are friends.” Hasn’t Mark said in public that he didn’t remember McNamee, that he was barely invested early on in Facebook and left when they switched business model? (The whole “You know what’s cool, a billion dollars?” and refusing Yahoo!’s offer was actually a big internal shift that ostracised a lot of early employees and investors.)

mindgam3 7y ago
> Hasn’t Mark said in public...? I don’t know, has he? Citing a source would be constructive as I’m not aware of Zuck saying anything publicly about McNamee ever since his PR stunt kicked off.
Rapzid 7y ago
Imagine all the trouble we would have been spared if Yahoo purchased Facebook and ran it into the ground with the rest of its portfolio.
- emiliobumachar 7y ago
  Probably some other social network would have swallowed the world instead. MySpace?

LMYahooTFY 7y ago

So despite referring to him publicly as an authoritarian, you want him to tell you that he hates him? What about the parts of the article where McNamee is, according to the Brian Barth, persuading powerful people to rally against every surveillance capitalist.