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If it rounds down to 0, most marketing is allowed some margin of error. You can put 0 grams fat per serving on a product that actually has 0.01 grams of fat.

If it rounds down to 0, most marketing is allowed some margin of error. You can put 0 grams fat per serving on a product that actually has 0.01 grams of fat. If a vegan restaurant advertises 0% animal products I guarantee that is also incorrect. There is some small percentage of insect parts in almost everything. Obviously there is some margin.

cookie_monsta 7y ago
I think incidental insect parts are different to a production process that guarantees the product will be coated in animal fat.
- learc83 7y ago
  It's cooked on a grill that is used for meat. How much animal fat it picks up is to be determined, but my guess is that by weight it still rounds down to 0. From my experience with grills I doubt it's very much at all. Clearly there is some threshold. What is it? 1 part per thousand? 1 part per billion?
  - gregoryl 7y ago
    Can you not see the difference between the two? In one case, the result is occasional accidental contamination, in the other, the product is intentionally placed on a contaminated surface. I don't think anyone is expecting perfection, but there is no reasonable effort being made to avoid this problem for a product that BK advertises as "0% beef".
    - learc83 7y ago
      >but there is no reasonable effort being made to avoid this problem for a product that BK advertises as "0% beef Adding an extra grill to the restaurant isn't reasonable. Apparently they will microwave it if you ask. However, the entire kitchen is covered in grease, it's a burger king. There's going to be some amount of cross contamination no matter what they do. They may be able to reduce it from 0.01% beef to 0.001% beef, but who cares? Who is ok with 1 part in 100,000, but not 1 part in 10,000? There's no functional difference unless you have an allergy and that happens to be the threshold. If you aren't OK with eating something to that touched meat and may contain trace amounts of beef, don't eat at a Burger restaurant.

cookie_monsta 7y ago

I think incidental insect parts are different to a production process that guarantees the product will be coated in animal fat.

learc83 7y ago
It's cooked on a grill that is used for meat. How much animal fat it picks up is to be determined, but my guess is that by weight it still rounds down to 0. From my experience with grills I doubt it's very much at all. Clearly there is some threshold. What is it? 1 part per thousand? 1 part per billion?
- gregoryl 7y ago
  Can you not see the difference between the two? In one case, the result is occasional accidental contamination, in the other, the product is intentionally placed on a contaminated surface. I don't think anyone is expecting perfection, but there is no reasonable effort being made to avoid this problem for a product that BK advertises as "0% beef".
  - learc83 7y ago
    >but there is no reasonable effort being made to avoid this problem for a product that BK advertises as "0% beef Adding an extra grill to the restaurant isn't reasonable. Apparently they will microwave it if you ask. However, the entire kitchen is covered in grease, it's a burger king. There's going to be some amount of cross contamination no matter what they do. They may be able to reduce it from 0.01% beef to 0.001% beef, but who cares? Who is ok with 1 part in 100,000, but not 1 part in 10,000? There's no functional difference unless you have an allergy and that happens to be the threshold. If you aren't OK with eating something to that touched meat and may contain trace amounts of beef, don't eat at a Burger restaurant.