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What $288k/yr headache is there around `docker pull buildkite/puppeteer`? https://hub.docker.com/r/buildkite/puppeteer https://hub.docker.com/r/buildkite/puppe
by MuffinFlavored 7y ago
What $288k/yr headache is there around `docker pull buildkite/puppeteer`?
https://hub.docker.com/r/buildkite/puppeteer https://hub.docker.com/r/buildkite/puppeteer
- maxaf 7y agoI dove into the comments to ask the same question. I just did something similar to this with a few lines in my docker-compose.yml, which eventually turned into a few lines in a Helm chart. Why would I pay someone money for something as trivial as this? Now, I won’t write another rant on the subject of Eternal September, and how our field is increasingly populated by charlatans who can’t do simple things on their own. But yes: that’s exactly how I feel.
- avip 7y agoDisclaimer: Neither I nor my colleagues or anyone I'm aware of are, were, or ever will, use said service. Did you divide (time that took you to complete this trivial task + time to document it, version it, explain it to coworkers, maintain it next time chrome decides to break something) * (your $/h cost) / 0.00008 before doing that?
- rozenmd 7y agoHere's a build vs buy calculator to save you from doing the maths: https://baremetrics.com/startup-calculator https://baremetrics.com/startup-calculator
- viraptor 7y agoThis is a dangerous calculator. It misses the cost of deployment, integration, internal support, etc. (This can be significantly larger for the purchased solution then an internal one as well)
- servercobra 7y agoPeople who would rather pay $30/mo to have someone manage it than run it themselves.
- qes 7y agoThat's a good deal if it takes more than about 10 minutes of my time a month to run it myself. Wanna venture a guess on how many years to ROI on time put into initial setup? And fwiw I do run my own puppeteer cluster because it's economically advantageous at our scale.
- dwnoble 7y agoI'm a browserless user, and the headache for me was cost. You're right that it's dirt-simple to spin up a puppeteer service in docker, and that's what I had been doing previously. But, for my usage, I found it was cheaper to pay browserless than to run my own EC2 instances. Granted, I probably account for a very, very tiny fraction of that $24k/mo :)
- mpoteat 7y agoYep. Puppeteer is the state of the art wrt headless browsers. There's money to be made selling B2B wrappers of OS software though. Not to trivialize the author's work...
- mrskitch 7y agoSure, but there's a lot of other things you're looking over: - We support selenium with the same version of Chrome as puppeteer's. Everything is versioned together. - Queueing/Concurrency and notifications. Arguably done in other efforts, but works. - Numerous other APIs built on top of puppeteer to do core cases. No need to write your own integration. - Monitoring and more. People do pay for this in order to not think about the burden of supporting it. Managed databases are a thing, even though they are freely available to download and run.
- xwdv 7y agoYea, I’m thinking making about a company named after some kind of low hanging fruit and just building out a bunch of these trivial little use cases that keep popping up and put them all behind a subscription model. You’ll probably see me with an article in 6 months about how I’m making $150k/mo for about 2% of my time.
- coldtea 7y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
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