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If a business can only exist if you exploit your labor force, then maybe your business shouldn't exist. The portion of people that work jobs for fun or a littl

If a business can only exist if you exploit your labor force, then maybe your business shouldn't exist. The portion of people that work jobs for fun or a little extra income are a minority. There are more examples of people working several minimum wage jobs just trying to survive. Maybe there is a compromise somewhere though. How about if you pay the minimum wage, then the owners/stake holders cannot make more than the lowest paid person. The head(s) of a company making good money(so I'm lumping some small businesses in here too), while saying that they just can't afford to pay their workers a decent wage, leave a bad taste in my mouth. Off topic, but I feel the same way about all the businesses saying we need cheap labor from Mexico or South America for the businesses to survive, since Americans won't do the job. It creates an underclass of people. If you can't find workers due to wage, and you cannot afford to pay more, the solution isn't to find a class of people that have it so bad, that living in poverty in America is a good option.

whatok 7y ago
Businesses need cheap labor from outside of the US because everyone in x industry is using cheap labor that has an artificial ceiling due to years of unchecked illegal immigration. Competition in x industry is now centered around this new labor price point and in some cases is far below minimum wage. At that point, many drop out of the labor force instead of working a difficult and manual labor job that pays less than minimum wage. This is a failure of government to have a coherent and sensible immigration policy and an additional failure to deal with the spillover effects of not having one.
atypicality 7y ago
> If a business can only exist if you exploit your labor force, then maybe your business shouldn't exist. Say bye-bye to your iPhone and all of your other beloved gadgets.
- Flozzin 7y ago
  No reason to say goodbye to them. It would just mean that the price would have to increase, or the industries that produce them will have a smaller profit margin. Apple has $245 billion in cash right now.
darawk 7y ago
> If a business can only exist if you exploit your labor force, then maybe your business shouldn't exist. In what sense is offering someone money to do something for you exploitation?

whatok 7y ago

Businesses need cheap labor from outside of the US because everyone in x industry is using cheap labor that has an artificial ceiling due to years of unchecked illegal immigration. Competition in x industry is now centered around this new labor price point and in some cases is far below minimum wage. At that point, many drop out of the labor force instead of working a difficult and manual labor job that pays less than minimum wage. This is a failure of government to have a coherent and sensible immigration policy and an additional failure to deal with the spillover effects of not having one.

atypicality 7y ago

> If a business can only exist if you exploit your labor force, then maybe your business shouldn't exist. Say bye-bye to your iPhone and all of your other beloved gadgets.

Flozzin 7y ago
No reason to say goodbye to them. It would just mean that the price would have to increase, or the industries that produce them will have a smaller profit margin. Apple has $245 billion in cash right now.

darawk 7y ago

> If a business can only exist if you exploit your labor force, then maybe your business shouldn't exist. In what sense is offering someone money to do something for you exploitation?