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These are not mainstream CPUs; people who do rendering and run server farms for a living will find this level of parallel computing a godsend.

by kunai 7y ago

gowld 7y ago
And yet anandtech writes articles as though "home usees" and "gamers" have a user for these cores, despite benchmarks being the most demanding workloads those users will ever run on these machines. In the "HEDT" space, the media coverage and forum chitchat is mostly for users who by these cards for decorative purposes, not work purposes. People buying for real work need realistic test measurements on realistic workloads.
- fwip 7y ago
  Yeah, benchmarking the games is a little embarrassing. Outside of Twitch streamers who do software encoding on-device (which is a minority of a minority), almost everyone interested in game performance would be better served by a different market segment. I guess it's driven by the types of hardware they normally review - their audience is interested in game benchmarks, so they might as well report them.
  - jl6 7y ago
    It’s not so unreasonable. I imagine there are plenty of users with HEDT workloads who also want to play games on the side, and want some assurance that their HEDT box can do both.
  - noir_lord 7y ago
    I mean nvenc has made a huge difference to streamers using nvidia cards already, you don't really need more than a 'consumer' 6C/12T or 8C/16T even with games gradually moving to supporting more cores if you have an nvidia card.
    - kllrnohj 7y ago
      Prior to the very latest generation nvidia GPUs the quality of nvenc was significantly worse than software x264. This, along with the still there even if very small performance hit, is why the major streamers all still use a dual PC setup with capture cards. If you're just streaming casually this doesn't matter at all. If this is your day job, though, you probably want all the quality & control you can get, and NVENC isn't quite there.

These are not mainstream CPUs; people who do rendering and run server farms for a living will find this level of parallel computing a godsend.

by kunai 7y ago

These are not mainstream CPUs; people who do rendering and run server farms for a living will find this level of parallel computing a godsend.

gowld 7y ago

And yet anandtech writes articles as though "home usees" and "gamers" have a user for these cores, despite benchmarks being the most demanding workloads those users will ever run on these machines. In the "HEDT" space, the media coverage and forum chitchat is mostly for users who by these cards for decorative purposes, not work purposes. People buying for real work need realistic test measurements on realistic workloads.

fwip 7y ago
Yeah, benchmarking the games is a little embarrassing. Outside of Twitch streamers who do software encoding on-device (which is a minority of a minority), almost everyone interested in game performance would be better served by a different market segment. I guess it's driven by the types of hardware they normally review - their audience is interested in game benchmarks, so they might as well report them.
- jl6 7y ago
  It’s not so unreasonable. I imagine there are plenty of users with HEDT workloads who also want to play games on the side, and want some assurance that their HEDT box can do both.
- noir_lord 7y ago
  I mean nvenc has made a huge difference to streamers using nvidia cards already, you don't really need more than a 'consumer' 6C/12T or 8C/16T even with games gradually moving to supporting more cores if you have an nvidia card.
  - kllrnohj 7y ago
    Prior to the very latest generation nvidia GPUs the quality of nvenc was significantly worse than software x264. This, along with the still there even if very small performance hit, is why the major streamers all still use a dual PC setup with capture cards. If you're just streaming casually this doesn't matter at all. If this is your day job, though, you probably want all the quality & control you can get, and NVENC isn't quite there.