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> mobo should be quite upgradeable though to last another decade Wouldn't count on it. I can't remember the specifics, but we're coming up on the end of the v
by mastax 7y ago
> mobo should be quite upgradeable though to last another decade
Wouldn't count on it. I can't remember the specifics, but we're coming up on the end of the vague time range that AMD said they'd support the AM4 socket. They talked about how difficult and expensive it was to get the interposer to connect the new chiplets to the old pins on the socket. I think Lisa Su also implied in an interview that AM4 is nearing it's end. In any case, DDR5 is coming in the next year or two which would necessitate a new socket, so I'd guess one more generation on AM4 at most.
- gremlinsinc 7y agoI'm getting MSI MPG 570x motherboard. It's upgradeable to 128GB, 3700x is pretty performant. I don't game. I use linux + i3wm. I simply want my code editors/browser windows to stop crashing lol... My goal is a decent build < 1000. I already have a case/power supply. Just getting CPU, Mobo, RAM basically. Keeping my r9 270x amd gfx card from 2013. Normal cooling. My RAM can go higher than 3200, but price range 3200 seems best bang for buck, I figure when it comes down I could upgrade to 128GB @ 4400 and eventually the cpu to whatever the highest end am4 socket allows, and a better graphics card and get a few more years out of my system. I've never spent more than 800 on a system. I guess one man's 'wow this is cool' is another's 'no, that's lame' lol.
- mastax 7y agoAh. I assumed that "upgradeable motherboard" referred to being able to upgrade the CPU. My mistake.
- lliamander 7y agoAMD has already confirmed that Zen 3 (Ryzen 4000) will be supported on AM4, so there's at least one generation left on that platform.
- distances 7y agoLast time I checked on this, the promise was a lot less clear than everyone is making it up to be.
- llampx 7y agoElsewhere, Zen 3 has been rumored to be a full rewrite, i.e. a new microarch from the ground up. That doesn't jive well with maintaining socket compatibility with AM4.
- lliamander 7y agoThe words I've seen from AMD on this matter seem fairly clear that they intend to keep Zen 3 on AM4. Most likely they'll wait until Zen 4 on a 5nm process to switch to a new socket(in 2021).
- gremlinsinc 7y agoIt's still a 'bit' upgradeable. But I think RAM/Gfx will get me further over the next 7-8 years in terms of speed/etc. It's a decent build comparable to maybe a $2000+ consumer desktop for $699. For my use case It'll fly compared to my system now which bogs down when I have 126 browser tabs open.