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One of the reasons why I don't use LibreOffice is completely broken kerning: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103322 https://bugs.documentfou

One of the reasons why I don't use LibreOffice is completely broken kerning: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103322 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103322

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dopylitty 7y ago
The keming is terrible too.
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octosphere 7y ago
Any other show stopping bugs you have encountered? I'm thinking of making the switch myself, but I hear nothing but anecdotes of people having a bad time getting proprietary Microsoft Office .docx files to play nice in LibreOffice
- laurent123456 7y ago
  For me, I can't use it on macOS because it freezes for several seconds any time I open a document, try to scroll, etc. Thankfully I don't need to open doc and xls files much.
- tooop 7y ago
  Last time i tried to use LibreOffice (~2 years ago) on OSX it was super slow/hanged when opening large CSV files while Excel on a virtual machine (same host) had 0 problems.
- itronitron 7y ago
  I used LibreOffice at work for two years (on linux) and it was good for most things, I used the powerpoint equivalent and it's definitely under-powered compared to MS but probably fine for 95% of people. I also did the MS 360 thing once about 3 years ago and will never do that again.
  - metters 7y ago
    > I also did the MS 360 thing once about 3 years ago and will never do that again. What happened or was the key issue?
    - itronitron 7y ago
      The main criticism I have is the requirement to create an 'account' and then having it 'phone home' every time one of the Office applications starts. This is totally unnecessary as annual licensing for desktop applications was worked out decades ago. The date for when the license expires is not displayed, unlike most annually licensed desktop applications so when it does expire is usually a surprise. To make matters worse MS office applications always default to saving files to cloud based storage despite my always picking a local drive to save files. There is noticeable lag while the file explorer tries to access cloud storage despite it never being intentionally used.
- pletnes 7y ago
  My experience is that I’ve used libreoffice to convert unreadable .doc 2003 files to working .docx documents. In these (admittedly few) cases, (a more recent version of) word could not read the .doc files in a meaningful fashion.
grandinj 7y ago
Yeah, our kerning is not great. We're slowly chipping away at the problem because it requires fixes at several different layers.
- prewett 7y ago
  I would strongly suggest prioritizing kerning. How text looks is the feature of a word processor, and I quit using LibreOffice a number of years ago because the text looked so hideous compared to anything else.
  - emsign 7y ago
    Yeah, there's something about the kerning that is just a little off. I agree that what happens on the page in the center of the screen has to be 100% perfect for any word processor.
    - prewett 7y ago
      I was thinking more about the printed page. I can deal with bad kerning on-screen if it prints out beautifully, although I won't be happy about it. But the whole point of the word processor is to print out text, so kerning is an essential requirement.
GnarfGnarf 7y ago
There's always LaTeX.
- sjy 7y ago
  You're getting downvoted, but you have a point. Word processors are for writing documents; if you really care about typography in the final product, at some point you need to use a real typesetting tool. From what I can tell, most large companies and governments draft documents in Word and then send them to graphic designers to reformat in InDesign or something and publish as PDF. You can tell when a document has been typeset in Word; it feels unfinished and unprofessional, even if it looks better than a LibreOffice document.
- Shorel 7y ago
  I learned LaTeX because that was the "Word" of Linux when I was installing Slackware from diskettes. And I don't regret it at all.
Shorel 7y ago
How this is not the top priority totally befuddles me.

One of the reasons why I don't use LibreOffice is completely broken kerning: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103322 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103322

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dopylitty 7y ago

The keming is terrible too.

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octosphere 7y ago

Any other show stopping bugs you have encountered? I'm thinking of making the switch myself, but I hear nothing but anecdotes of people having a bad time getting proprietary Microsoft Office .docx files to play nice in LibreOffice

laurent123456 7y ago
For me, I can't use it on macOS because it freezes for several seconds any time I open a document, try to scroll, etc. Thankfully I don't need to open doc and xls files much.
tooop 7y ago
Last time i tried to use LibreOffice (~2 years ago) on OSX it was super slow/hanged when opening large CSV files while Excel on a virtual machine (same host) had 0 problems.
itronitron 7y ago
I used LibreOffice at work for two years (on linux) and it was good for most things, I used the powerpoint equivalent and it's definitely under-powered compared to MS but probably fine for 95% of people. I also did the MS 360 thing once about 3 years ago and will never do that again.
- metters 7y ago
  > I also did the MS 360 thing once about 3 years ago and will never do that again. What happened or was the key issue?
  - itronitron 7y ago
    The main criticism I have is the requirement to create an 'account' and then having it 'phone home' every time one of the Office applications starts. This is totally unnecessary as annual licensing for desktop applications was worked out decades ago. The date for when the license expires is not displayed, unlike most annually licensed desktop applications so when it does expire is usually a surprise. To make matters worse MS office applications always default to saving files to cloud based storage despite my always picking a local drive to save files. There is noticeable lag while the file explorer tries to access cloud storage despite it never being intentionally used.
pletnes 7y ago
My experience is that I’ve used libreoffice to convert unreadable .doc 2003 files to working .docx documents. In these (admittedly few) cases, (a more recent version of) word could not read the .doc files in a meaningful fashion.

grandinj 7y ago

Yeah, our kerning is not great. We're slowly chipping away at the problem because it requires fixes at several different layers.

prewett 7y ago
I would strongly suggest prioritizing kerning. How text looks is the feature of a word processor, and I quit using LibreOffice a number of years ago because the text looked so hideous compared to anything else.
- emsign 7y ago
  Yeah, there's something about the kerning that is just a little off. I agree that what happens on the page in the center of the screen has to be 100% perfect for any word processor.
  - prewett 7y ago
    I was thinking more about the printed page. I can deal with bad kerning on-screen if it prints out beautifully, although I won't be happy about it. But the whole point of the word processor is to print out text, so kerning is an essential requirement.

GnarfGnarf 7y ago

There's always LaTeX.

sjy 7y ago
You're getting downvoted, but you have a point. Word processors are for writing documents; if you really care about typography in the final product, at some point you need to use a real typesetting tool. From what I can tell, most large companies and governments draft documents in Word and then send them to graphic designers to reformat in InDesign or something and publish as PDF. You can tell when a document has been typeset in Word; it feels unfinished and unprofessional, even if it looks better than a LibreOffice document.
Shorel 7y ago
I learned LaTeX because that was the "Word" of Linux when I was installing Slackware from diskettes. And I don't regret it at all.

Shorel 7y ago

How this is not the top priority totally befuddles me.