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Why no compilation benchmarks? Say, a Linux, chromium or GCC compile. All that cache must make it fantastic at compiling.

by bjoli 7y ago

gameswithgo 7y ago
Gamers Nexus did some GCC benchmarks with the regular Ryzens and indeed they were absolutely trouncing intel, and indeed it was due to the big l3 cache. The Threadrippers are the same cpu with just more of them so I'm sure they do well also.
syshum 7y ago
On Linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRgmq9f6VBY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRgmq9f6VBY https://www.level1techs.com/article/threadripper-ragnarok https://www.level1techs.com/article/threadripper-ragnarok
Trellmor 7y ago
Phoronix posted some compilation benchmarks: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-linux-3960x-3970x&num=9 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-linu... And golem.de (link in german, see table at the end of the page): https://www.golem.de/news/threadripper-3970x-3960x-im-test-amd-wird-uneinholbar-1911-144997-3.html https://www.golem.de/news/threadripper-3970x-3960x-im-test-a...
- travisglines 7y ago
  The percentage increase in performance in those benchmarks is stunning. They're pushing hard on the multi-thread end and it's clearly working for a lot of modern applications that can take advantage of it. Pair one of these Threadrippers with a pair of the fastest NVMe SSD's out there, with plenty of high performance DDR4 memory and you've got a near supercomputer from recent past in terms of performance.
  - Avamander 7y ago
    We should also really update all tutorials out there to use things like `make -j12` and makefiles to link and compile using multiple threads.
    - voltagex_ 7y ago
      make -j will do it, but having played around a bit via machines on packet.net, RAM is the limiting factor.
      - def- 7y ago
        > If the -j option is given without an argument, make will not limit the number of jobs that can run simultaneously. On large projects you'll run OOM quickly if you're compiling thousands of files at once. All the context switches also slow down compilation.
- SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
  Really interesting and effective way to lay out the results of so many tests here. https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=1911248-HU-THREADRIP46&sha=b043b4a&p=2 https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=1911248-HU-THREADRI...
IanCutress 7y ago
Ever since moving to Win 1909, our compile benchmarks have been a bit off. I was at Supercomputing last week, literally got back Saturday to start writing the review, and I need to get some time to debug why it's not working as it should. I've got Qualcomm's Tech Summit next week and IEDM the week after that, so you'll have to wait a bit. Ian (the editor of the review)
- Someone1234 7y ago
  Quick question: How are you handling Intel's security patches vis-a-vis benchmarks/consistency? In particular as there are like three(?) performance impacting fixes now that were released over a two or more year period. For example in articles like this where you include older chips are you just listing the numbers from previous benchmarks, or are all running on the same patch level/OS?
- keldaris 7y ago
  I can't resist asking something that's been bugging me for a long time. The issue of insane travel schedules has openly plagued AnandTech for a long time now, both delaying reviews and severely impacting their quality when they do come out. Every tech website out there covers the big events in roughly the same way, very few do proper deep dive technical reviews like you've done in the past. Is it really the best use of your time to (partially) squander the comparative advantage you have in favor of rushing from one event to the next, reporting the same things everyone else does?
  - cheez 7y ago
    If you don't show up, no one knows you exist. He has to do everything the other guys do and more in order to stand out.
    - keldaris 7y ago
      His CPU reviews in particular have at times been virtually unparalleled in the industry. I don't think name recognition is an issue. It's just painful to see that suffer for run of the mill industry news reporting.
bogwog 7y ago
It's 2019; I just want to press F5 to refresh my Linux kernel. Is that too much to ask for?
- gremlinsinc 7y ago
  I just want vscode to work, because it's awesome when it does... but I tend to have 5-10 editors open at a time and so far only sublime_text works w/ my workflow without crashing...though it sometimes needs rebooted when the plugin manager is having race conditions or other errors. Plus other electron apps. Current system is about 8-10 years old though, upgrading after christmas sometime to 3700x amd line and ddr4 3200 ram 32gb (upgrading from 8gb)...mobo should be quite upgradeable though to last another decade.
  - akhilcacharya 7y ago
    I just did this upgrade. Having so much compute at your disposal is magical. You won't regret it!
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - mastax 7y ago
    > mobo should be quite upgradeable though to last another decade Wouldn't count on it. I can't remember the specifics, but we're coming up on the end of the vague time range that AMD said they'd support the AM4 socket. They talked about how difficult and expensive it was to get the interposer to connect the new chiplets to the old pins on the socket. I think Lisa Su also implied in an interview that AM4 is nearing it's end. In any case, DDR5 is coming in the next year or two which would necessitate a new socket, so I'd guess one more generation on AM4 at most.
    - gremlinsinc 7y ago
      I'm getting MSI MPG 570x motherboard. It's upgradeable to 128GB, 3700x is pretty performant. I don't game. I use linux + i3wm. I simply want my code editors/browser windows to stop crashing lol... My goal is a decent build < 1000. I already have a case/power supply. Just getting CPU, Mobo, RAM basically. Keeping my r9 270x amd gfx card from 2013. Normal cooling. My RAM can go higher than 3200, but price range 3200 seems best bang for buck, I figure when it comes down I could upgrade to 128GB @ 4400 and eventually the cpu to whatever the highest end am4 socket allows, and a better graphics card and get a few more years out of my system. I've never spent more than 800 on a system. I guess one man's 'wow this is cool' is another's 'no, that's lame' lol.
szatkus 7y ago
Note that every core has access to "only" 16MB of cache (well, counting L2 you could say it's 16.5MB). This will change with Zen3 ("32MB+").

Why no compilation benchmarks? Say, a Linux, chromium or GCC compile. All that cache must make it fantastic at compiling.

by bjoli 7y ago

Why no compilation benchmarks? Say, a Linux, chromium or GCC compile. All that cache must make it fantastic at compiling.

gameswithgo 7y ago

Gamers Nexus did some GCC benchmarks with the regular Ryzens and indeed they were absolutely trouncing intel, and indeed it was due to the big l3 cache. The Threadrippers are the same cpu with just more of them so I'm sure they do well also.

syshum 7y ago

On Linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRgmq9f6VBY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRgmq9f6VBY https://www.level1techs.com/article/threadripper-ragnarok https://www.level1techs.com/article/threadripper-ragnarok

Trellmor 7y ago

Phoronix posted some compilation benchmarks: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-linux-3960x-3970x&num=9 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-linu... And golem.de (link in german, see table at the end of the page): https://www.golem.de/news/threadripper-3970x-3960x-im-test-amd-wird-uneinholbar-1911-144997-3.html https://www.golem.de/news/threadripper-3970x-3960x-im-test-a...

travisglines 7y ago
The percentage increase in performance in those benchmarks is stunning. They're pushing hard on the multi-thread end and it's clearly working for a lot of modern applications that can take advantage of it. Pair one of these Threadrippers with a pair of the fastest NVMe SSD's out there, with plenty of high performance DDR4 memory and you've got a near supercomputer from recent past in terms of performance.
- Avamander 7y ago
  We should also really update all tutorials out there to use things like `make -j12` and makefiles to link and compile using multiple threads.
  - voltagex_ 7y ago
    make -j will do it, but having played around a bit via machines on packet.net, RAM is the limiting factor.
    - def- 7y ago
      > If the -j option is given without an argument, make will not limit the number of jobs that can run simultaneously. On large projects you'll run OOM quickly if you're compiling thousands of files at once. All the context switches also slow down compilation.
SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
Really interesting and effective way to lay out the results of so many tests here. https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=1911248-HU-THREADRIP46&sha=b043b4a&p=2 https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=1911248-HU-THREADRI...

IanCutress 7y ago

Ever since moving to Win 1909, our compile benchmarks have been a bit off. I was at Supercomputing last week, literally got back Saturday to start writing the review, and I need to get some time to debug why it's not working as it should. I've got Qualcomm's Tech Summit next week and IEDM the week after that, so you'll have to wait a bit. Ian (the editor of the review)

Someone1234 7y ago
Quick question: How are you handling Intel's security patches vis-a-vis benchmarks/consistency? In particular as there are like three(?) performance impacting fixes now that were released over a two or more year period. For example in articles like this where you include older chips are you just listing the numbers from previous benchmarks, or are all running on the same patch level/OS?
keldaris 7y ago
I can't resist asking something that's been bugging me for a long time. The issue of insane travel schedules has openly plagued AnandTech for a long time now, both delaying reviews and severely impacting their quality when they do come out. Every tech website out there covers the big events in roughly the same way, very few do proper deep dive technical reviews like you've done in the past. Is it really the best use of your time to (partially) squander the comparative advantage you have in favor of rushing from one event to the next, reporting the same things everyone else does?
- cheez 7y ago
  If you don't show up, no one knows you exist. He has to do everything the other guys do and more in order to stand out.
  - keldaris 7y ago
    His CPU reviews in particular have at times been virtually unparalleled in the industry. I don't think name recognition is an issue. It's just painful to see that suffer for run of the mill industry news reporting.

bogwog 7y ago

It's 2019; I just want to press F5 to refresh my Linux kernel. Is that too much to ask for?

gremlinsinc 7y ago
I just want vscode to work, because it's awesome when it does... but I tend to have 5-10 editors open at a time and so far only sublime_text works w/ my workflow without crashing...though it sometimes needs rebooted when the plugin manager is having race conditions or other errors. Plus other electron apps. Current system is about 8-10 years old though, upgrading after christmas sometime to 3700x amd line and ddr4 3200 ram 32gb (upgrading from 8gb)...mobo should be quite upgradeable though to last another decade.
- akhilcacharya 7y ago
  I just did this upgrade. Having so much compute at your disposal is magical. You won't regret it!
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- mastax 7y ago
  > mobo should be quite upgradeable though to last another decade Wouldn't count on it. I can't remember the specifics, but we're coming up on the end of the vague time range that AMD said they'd support the AM4 socket. They talked about how difficult and expensive it was to get the interposer to connect the new chiplets to the old pins on the socket. I think Lisa Su also implied in an interview that AM4 is nearing it's end. In any case, DDR5 is coming in the next year or two which would necessitate a new socket, so I'd guess one more generation on AM4 at most.
  - gremlinsinc 7y ago
    I'm getting MSI MPG 570x motherboard. It's upgradeable to 128GB, 3700x is pretty performant. I don't game. I use linux + i3wm. I simply want my code editors/browser windows to stop crashing lol... My goal is a decent build < 1000. I already have a case/power supply. Just getting CPU, Mobo, RAM basically. Keeping my r9 270x amd gfx card from 2013. Normal cooling. My RAM can go higher than 3200, but price range 3200 seems best bang for buck, I figure when it comes down I could upgrade to 128GB @ 4400 and eventually the cpu to whatever the highest end am4 socket allows, and a better graphics card and get a few more years out of my system. I've never spent more than 800 on a system. I guess one man's 'wow this is cool' is another's 'no, that's lame' lol.

szatkus 7y ago

Note that every core has access to "only" 16MB of cache (well, counting L2 you could say it's 16.5MB). This will change with Zen3 ("32MB+").