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>This taboo against sex, one of the most natural acts of almost all lifeforms We're not talking about just 'sex', we are talking about the creation of entertai

>This taboo against sex, one of the most natural acts of almost all lifeforms We're not talking about just 'sex', we are talking about the creation of entertainment media were a person is paid to have sex with another person/persons. I wouldn't call it a 'natural act'. I used to be totally fine with porn, and to some extent I still am, however I do see it as a problem as well. First off I think that the ease with which really hardcore porn is increasingly accessable today means very young kids are able to get their first views of sex being extremely warped. This creates expectations of what sex is that many are likely uncomfortable with, but will perform because porn has made it 'the norm'. Add to this how most porn turns sex into something borderline mechanical and/or centered around a fetish, which makes perfect sense from a 'product standpoint', but it also means that practically all porn sells the whole idea of sex as merely people using eachother to 'get off'. The second problem I have is with the industry and its employees, I can't recall any ex-porn worker having anything good to say about their previous profession, instead what I've seen described comes across as a really shitty situation, where many turn to drugs in order to make it through 'shoots' and then again to forget.

Scapeghost 7y ago
> The second problem I have is with the industry and its employees, I can't recall any ex-porn worker having anything good to say about their previous profession, instead what I've seen described comes across as a really shitty situation, where many turn to drugs in order to make it through 'shoots' and then again to forget. This can be said about the "mainstream" showbiz industry as well. Remember all the child stars with ugly adulthoods? As for spawning fetishes and promoting unrealistic expectations, again, you can say this about a lot of mainstream media too. Critics of porn seem to ignore other industries with the same problems when singling out porn for these criticisms, because !!sex!!
- BurningCycles 7y ago
  Sure, but sex is something practically every human will engage in, and typically starting at a young age. I don't know exactly what the fetishes/unrealistic expectations you say mainstream media is promoting, but I doubt they have as direct impact as porn does. As for mainstream showbiz, I certainly don't hold it in high regard either, but I do think it does better than the porn industry. Basically I would be very hesitant about my kid going into showbiz, meanwhile I would do anything in my power to dissuade my kid from going into porn.
  - nojvek 7y ago
    Porn is a huge world of a bajillion sites. Some are good, some are meh, some aren’t. Coming from Australia, I find the whole anti-nudity-sex view of US extremely bizarre. One one side Netflix and friends have figured out that Booms, Bullets, Bucks, Boobs and Butts are a golden formula. Like most HBO series involve some form of nudity. On the other side the big media mafias are heavily censoring totally normal things.
  - Scapeghost 7y ago
    > I don't know exactly what the fetishes/unrealistic expectations you say mainstream media is promoting Toxic masculinity and macho-isms, submissive femininity and repressed sexuality, hard-to-maintain body types, glamorizing hazards like fast cars and wreckless driving or acting like an asshole. Much has been said elsewhere about and against these topics.
GoblinSlayer 7y ago
Nobody is trying to make a different depiction of sex because sex itself is taboo, not hardcore porn in particular. No reason to spend effort only for the result to be slandered by snobs for being lewd.
xtracto 7y ago
> I can't recall any ex-porn worker having anything good to say about their previous profession, Thats just due to ignorance. Watch the two documentaries of After Sex ends.
bigbaguette 7y ago
>the ease with which really hardcore porn is increasingly accessable today means very young kids are able to get their first views of sex being extremely warped. This creates expectations of what sex is that many are likely uncomfortable with, but will perform because porn has made it 'the norm'. Instead of blaming porn, easily accessible or not, we could mention the role of parents or even schools that could be more involved with sex education. >I can't recall any ex-porn worker having anything good to say about their previous profession, instead what I've seen described comes across as a really shitty situation, where many turn to drugs in order to make it through 'shoots' and then again to forget. Well, maybe if this population was not constantly vilified and ostracized, things would go better for them.

Scapeghost 7y ago

> The second problem I have is with the industry and its employees, I can't recall any ex-porn worker having anything good to say about their previous profession, instead what I've seen described comes across as a really shitty situation, where many turn to drugs in order to make it through 'shoots' and then again to forget. This can be said about the "mainstream" showbiz industry as well. Remember all the child stars with ugly adulthoods? As for spawning fetishes and promoting unrealistic expectations, again, you can say this about a lot of mainstream media too. Critics of porn seem to ignore other industries with the same problems when singling out porn for these criticisms, because !!sex!!

BurningCycles 7y ago
Sure, but sex is something practically every human will engage in, and typically starting at a young age. I don't know exactly what the fetishes/unrealistic expectations you say mainstream media is promoting, but I doubt they have as direct impact as porn does. As for mainstream showbiz, I certainly don't hold it in high regard either, but I do think it does better than the porn industry. Basically I would be very hesitant about my kid going into showbiz, meanwhile I would do anything in my power to dissuade my kid from going into porn.
- nojvek 7y ago
  Porn is a huge world of a bajillion sites. Some are good, some are meh, some aren’t. Coming from Australia, I find the whole anti-nudity-sex view of US extremely bizarre. One one side Netflix and friends have figured out that Booms, Bullets, Bucks, Boobs and Butts are a golden formula. Like most HBO series involve some form of nudity. On the other side the big media mafias are heavily censoring totally normal things.
- Scapeghost 7y ago
  > I don't know exactly what the fetishes/unrealistic expectations you say mainstream media is promoting Toxic masculinity and macho-isms, submissive femininity and repressed sexuality, hard-to-maintain body types, glamorizing hazards like fast cars and wreckless driving or acting like an asshole. Much has been said elsewhere about and against these topics.

GoblinSlayer 7y ago

Nobody is trying to make a different depiction of sex because sex itself is taboo, not hardcore porn in particular. No reason to spend effort only for the result to be slandered by snobs for being lewd.

xtracto 7y ago

> I can't recall any ex-porn worker having anything good to say about their previous profession, Thats just due to ignorance. Watch the two documentaries of After Sex ends.

bigbaguette 7y ago

>the ease with which really hardcore porn is increasingly accessable today means very young kids are able to get their first views of sex being extremely warped. This creates expectations of what sex is that many are likely uncomfortable with, but will perform because porn has made it 'the norm'. Instead of blaming porn, easily accessible or not, we could mention the role of parents or even schools that could be more involved with sex education. >I can't recall any ex-porn worker having anything good to say about their previous profession, instead what I've seen described comes across as a really shitty situation, where many turn to drugs in order to make it through 'shoots' and then again to forget. Well, maybe if this population was not constantly vilified and ostracized, things would go better for them.