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It requires violence on behalf of the authorities sometimes to keep violent intruders out, just like it's required to catch criminals or deflect a hostile army'
by lazyjones 7y ago
It requires violence on behalf of the authorities sometimes to keep violent intruders out, just like it's required to catch criminals or deflect a hostile army's attack. That doesn't make it bad. In practice, authorities exert no violence at borders e.g. in most European countries, even the threat of violent action is very low nowadays - that's why they are easily overrun.
- pjc50 7y ago"Overrun" is a very extreme word to use here? Are you trying to suggest "invasion"? > violent intruders Very few of the people crossing the border are themselves "violent".
- lazyjones 7y ago> "Overrun" is a very extreme word to use here? Are you trying to suggest "invasion"? It's an appropriate word for what happened at several borders, fences that were erected were torn down violently and hundreds of people ran over them. What word would you rather use? https://www.srf.ch/news/international/fluechtlinge-stuermen-zaun-an-griechisch-mazedonischer-grenze https://www.srf.ch/news/international/fluechtlinge-stuermen-... (this is from a failed attempt)
- michaelt 7y agoSpeaking as a third-party reader, when you assert that borders require violence to maintain, then you disagree with lazyjones saying there are sometimes violent intruders, it leaves me confused about what argument you're trying to make?