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Keep going then, because literally none of those mention a "law" about getting the item for free on a mismatch of charged price and advertised price.

reaperducer 7y ago
From the very first link: "Consumers should feel confident that the price on the shelf will be the same price they are charged at the cash register,” said Attorney General Harris. “Californians who shop at Wal-Mart should know that they have the right to ask for the appropriate discount.” Are you under the impression that the attorney general of California is making up consumer rights that do not exist as law? "12024.2. (a) It is unlawful for any person, at the time of sale of a commodity, to do any of the following: (1) Charge an amount greater than the price, or to compute an amount greater than a true extension of a price per unit, that is then advertised, posted, marked, displayed, or quoted for that commodity. (2) Charge an amount greater than the lowest price posted on the commodity itself or on a shelf tag that corresponds to the commodity, notwithstanding any limitation of the time period for which the posted price is in effect." https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=BPC&sectionNum=12024.2 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...
- losteric 7y ago
  Right, the store must honor their advertised price... however, they are not required to give away mispriced products. That would be ridiculous.
- rahimnathwani 7y ago
  The section of law you quoted says that the retailer can't charge a higher price than that on the shelf. So, if someone approaches them willing to buy the item at the advertised price, they could: a) agree to sell at the advertised price (legal) b) agree to sell only at a higher price (illegal) c) refuse to sell If they choose (c), then they're not in violation of the excerpt you quoted, as they're not 'charging' at all.
- DrScump 7y ago
  > Are you under the impression that the attorney general of California is making up consumer rights that do not exist as law? Without getting into the competency of the current holder of that office... What you are quoting is criminal law for retail in general. Certain chains that have a track record of overcharging are under consent decrees that specify protections for consumers that go beyond regular law, such as a free first item.
- deleted 7y ago
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- michaelcampbell 7y ago
  > Are you under the impression that the attorney general of California is making up consumer rights that do not exist as law? I've no idea what led you to this, nor why you quoted and posted something unrelated to the charge that you've yet to show any law that requires sellers to GIVE THE CONSUMER THE ITEM, FREE OF CHARGE, when mislaeled.
lightedman 7y ago
I know the relevant laws (possibly because I've been a retail business owner,) I'll actually cite them. It's called Truth in Advertising and Marketing, and is governed by the FTC at the federal level and also enforced at the state level where more appropriate. To violate it would give you a charge of False and Misleading Advertising. It is a secondary derivative of the Lanham Act, which also prohibits false advertising. Airlines got especially busted for price advertisements, and are now required to abide by Federal laws written JUST FOR THEM regarding their pricing advertising practices - 14 CFR § 399.84
- nothrabannosir 7y ago
  This conversation is not about the price in your own ads but the MSRP, or the average price across retailers, or anything similar that depends on your competitors. Are you required by law to price match?
  - lightedman 7y ago
    No, you are not, because it is a SUGGESTED price. You can walk into a Wal-Mart, see a First Act guitar where the box clearly says "MSRP $99" and you'll see $129 on the actual shelf price tag below the item.
- Gunax 7y ago
  What about accidents? I think morally we should agree that there is a difference between fraudulent pricing and price errors. Are you actually in violation if you accidentally advertise or label an incorrect price?
  - lightedman 7y ago
    https://www.nist.gov/pml/weights-and-measures/us-retail-pricing-laws-and-regulations-state https://www.nist.gov/pml/weights-and-measures/us-retail-pric... Some states, yes, even for a minor glitch in pricing.
- AdamJacobMuller 7y ago

reaperducer 7y ago

From the very first link: "Consumers should feel confident that the price on the shelf will be the same price they are charged at the cash register,” said Attorney General Harris. “Californians who shop at Wal-Mart should know that they have the right to ask for the appropriate discount.” Are you under the impression that the attorney general of California is making up consumer rights that do not exist as law? "12024.2. (a) It is unlawful for any person, at the time of sale of a commodity, to do any of the following: (1) Charge an amount greater than the price, or to compute an amount greater than a true extension of a price per unit, that is then advertised, posted, marked, displayed, or quoted for that commodity. (2) Charge an amount greater than the lowest price posted on the commodity itself or on a shelf tag that corresponds to the commodity, notwithstanding any limitation of the time period for which the posted price is in effect." https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=BPC&sectionNum=12024.2 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...

losteric 7y ago
Right, the store must honor their advertised price... however, they are not required to give away mispriced products. That would be ridiculous.
rahimnathwani 7y ago
The section of law you quoted says that the retailer can't charge a higher price than that on the shelf. So, if someone approaches them willing to buy the item at the advertised price, they could: a) agree to sell at the advertised price (legal) b) agree to sell only at a higher price (illegal) c) refuse to sell If they choose (c), then they're not in violation of the excerpt you quoted, as they're not 'charging' at all.
DrScump 7y ago
> Are you under the impression that the attorney general of California is making up consumer rights that do not exist as law? Without getting into the competency of the current holder of that office... What you are quoting is criminal law for retail in general. Certain chains that have a track record of overcharging are under consent decrees that specify protections for consumers that go beyond regular law, such as a free first item.
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michaelcampbell 7y ago
> Are you under the impression that the attorney general of California is making up consumer rights that do not exist as law? I've no idea what led you to this, nor why you quoted and posted something unrelated to the charge that you've yet to show any law that requires sellers to GIVE THE CONSUMER THE ITEM, FREE OF CHARGE, when mislaeled.

lightedman 7y ago

I know the relevant laws (possibly because I've been a retail business owner,) I'll actually cite them. It's called Truth in Advertising and Marketing, and is governed by the FTC at the federal level and also enforced at the state level where more appropriate. To violate it would give you a charge of False and Misleading Advertising. It is a secondary derivative of the Lanham Act, which also prohibits false advertising. Airlines got especially busted for price advertisements, and are now required to abide by Federal laws written JUST FOR THEM regarding their pricing advertising practices - 14 CFR § 399.84

nothrabannosir 7y ago
This conversation is not about the price in your own ads but the MSRP, or the average price across retailers, or anything similar that depends on your competitors. Are you required by law to price match?
- lightedman 7y ago
  No, you are not, because it is a SUGGESTED price. You can walk into a Wal-Mart, see a First Act guitar where the box clearly says "MSRP $99" and you'll see $129 on the actual shelf price tag below the item.
Gunax 7y ago
What about accidents? I think morally we should agree that there is a difference between fraudulent pricing and price errors. Are you actually in violation if you accidentally advertise or label an incorrect price?
- lightedman 7y ago
  https://www.nist.gov/pml/weights-and-measures/us-retail-pricing-laws-and-regulations-state https://www.nist.gov/pml/weights-and-measures/us-retail-pric... Some states, yes, even for a minor glitch in pricing.
AdamJacobMuller 7y ago