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I Invented the World Wide Web. Here’s How We Can Fix It

32 points by tysone 7y ago

Thorentis 7y ago
> Here's how we can fix it > Immediately hit by paywall The irony is astounding.
- mirimir 7y ago
  In Firefox, you can read NY Times if you hit reader view as soon as the icon appears. That works for many paywalled sites.
  - SimeVidas 7y ago
    can confirm.
- smileysteve 7y ago
  Nowhere in his list of complaints is it that companies charge for content that they produce or publish.
- vzttzv2 7y ago
  I don't think making everything free would make the www better. In fact it had been proven wrong at this point
davidjnelson 7y ago
> In my view, governments should impose an immediate ban on targeted political advertising to restore trust in our public discourse. I hope this happens really quickly. It’s truly critically important.
- sytelus 7y ago
  When you read "government should" that means it's fairly unlikely to happen let alone quick. When you read "government_s_ should" it's next to impossible. Not going to happen. Lee should know better than this. Technological solutions are far more agile and robust then relying on governments all over the world to have a consenses in doing something.
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sebow 7y ago
Kind of astonishing that a person that "invented the internet" doesn't really understand what he's proposing in terms of global and cultural impact. I guess i'll blame it on the age:with time,we're losing perspective and assume the world is as nice and kinder just like "when we were young".(which is almost never the case,because with more people the number of conflicts towards the highest levels of our pyramidal society increases) His intentions are well-intended,no doubt, but the proposed solution(s) really make me scratch my head >The web needs radical intervention from all those who have power over its future: governments that can legislate and regulate; companies that design products; civil society groups and activists who hold the powerful to account; and every single web user who interacts with others online. Out of all these 4 "entities",only 2 need to arguably "radically intervene", and those are neither the gov. nor the companies,because since ~94(US) and ~2007(worldwide), companies are the ones that mostly shaped the internet in the form that it has today.(which i'm gonna personally claim is not a very good one,at least for the future people that "join" it.) For about ~5 years we're in the big struggle for control over it by the governments,and once again(if one makes the analogy of how societies have almost always operated in the past), the "state" and the "nobility"(in this case the companies) are fighting themselves at the expense of the people. Besides all of this,which i think the author could have expanded on,it really can't stop occurring to me how one of the "inventors" of the internet publishes an article on NYT.
droithomme 7y ago
First let's address Mister Lee's claim to be a "Knight" per his use of the title "Sir". Knights don't exist any more. When they did exist they were a hyper racist and genocidal hate organization dedicated to tracking down and exterminating muslims and jews on behalf of powerful christofascist supremacists. Very very bad people. Intentionally and proudly identifying with the "knight" identity in the modern era automatically makes you totally crazy. Second, he didn't invent the internet. He contributed a small amount to the HTML protocol and since then has desperately tried to become rich and powerful from that because he is extremely arrogant and delusional. His calls for censorship and government crackdowns to eliminate "wrong thoughts" whether judaism, islam, paganism, or anything else, are on par for the whole "knight" mentality though so at least he is consistent.
- diminoten 7y ago
  What do you mean knights don't exist anymore? The UK definitely still has a knighthood...
  - droithomme 7y ago
    They are as legitimate as saying that furries are real animals. It's play time for people suffering from delusions. I have no problem at all with them exercising their delusions in private but such persons have no authority to be dictating to the world under what form of their fascist vision others must be living, because they are intrinsically delusional and hence unsuited to be determining public policy.
    - diminoten 7y ago
      Yeah that's not really up to you, whether or not knights exist. If a government has something called a "knighthood", then they exist, full stop.
      - droithomme 7y ago
        How many muslims and jews has he brutally murdered based only on their beliefs? If it's none he's not a very good Knight, is he? He's not a real Knight because he's not a cruel and depraved psychopath working for the Royal Government to exterminate hated minorities in the pursuit of white supremacy. That he feels hey OK associating himself and claiming as his own identity the historical racist abomination of knighthood though is exceptionally problematic. Something not right in the head.
thunderbong 7y ago
More enlightened conversation seems to be happening on this thread - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21624316#21625154 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21624316#21625154

32 points by tysone 7y ago

Thorentis 7y ago

> Here's how we can fix it > Immediately hit by paywall The irony is astounding.

mirimir 7y ago
In Firefox, you can read NY Times if you hit reader view as soon as the icon appears. That works for many paywalled sites.
- SimeVidas 7y ago
  can confirm.
smileysteve 7y ago
Nowhere in his list of complaints is it that companies charge for content that they produce or publish.
vzttzv2 7y ago
I don't think making everything free would make the www better. In fact it had been proven wrong at this point

davidjnelson 7y ago

> In my view, governments should impose an immediate ban on targeted political advertising to restore trust in our public discourse. I hope this happens really quickly. It’s truly critically important.

sytelus 7y ago
When you read "government should" that means it's fairly unlikely to happen let alone quick. When you read "government_s_ should" it's next to impossible. Not going to happen. Lee should know better than this. Technological solutions are far more agile and robust then relying on governments all over the world to have a consenses in doing something.

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sebow 7y ago

Kind of astonishing that a person that "invented the internet" doesn't really understand what he's proposing in terms of global and cultural impact. I guess i'll blame it on the age:with time,we're losing perspective and assume the world is as nice and kinder just like "when we were young".(which is almost never the case,because with more people the number of conflicts towards the highest levels of our pyramidal society increases) His intentions are well-intended,no doubt, but the proposed solution(s) really make me scratch my head >The web needs radical intervention from all those who have power over its future: governments that can legislate and regulate; companies that design products; civil society groups and activists who hold the powerful to account; and every single web user who interacts with others online. Out of all these 4 "entities",only 2 need to arguably "radically intervene", and those are neither the gov. nor the companies,because since ~94(US) and ~2007(worldwide), companies are the ones that mostly shaped the internet in the form that it has today.(which i'm gonna personally claim is not a very good one,at least for the future people that "join" it.) For about ~5 years we're in the big struggle for control over it by the governments,and once again(if one makes the analogy of how societies have almost always operated in the past), the "state" and the "nobility"(in this case the companies) are fighting themselves at the expense of the people. Besides all of this,which i think the author could have expanded on,it really can't stop occurring to me how one of the "inventors" of the internet publishes an article on NYT.

droithomme 7y ago

First let's address Mister Lee's claim to be a "Knight" per his use of the title "Sir". Knights don't exist any more. When they did exist they were a hyper racist and genocidal hate organization dedicated to tracking down and exterminating muslims and jews on behalf of powerful christofascist supremacists. Very very bad people. Intentionally and proudly identifying with the "knight" identity in the modern era automatically makes you totally crazy. Second, he didn't invent the internet. He contributed a small amount to the HTML protocol and since then has desperately tried to become rich and powerful from that because he is extremely arrogant and delusional. His calls for censorship and government crackdowns to eliminate "wrong thoughts" whether judaism, islam, paganism, or anything else, are on par for the whole "knight" mentality though so at least he is consistent.

diminoten 7y ago
What do you mean knights don't exist anymore? The UK definitely still has a knighthood...
- droithomme 7y ago
  They are as legitimate as saying that furries are real animals. It's play time for people suffering from delusions. I have no problem at all with them exercising their delusions in private but such persons have no authority to be dictating to the world under what form of their fascist vision others must be living, because they are intrinsically delusional and hence unsuited to be determining public policy.
  - diminoten 7y ago
    Yeah that's not really up to you, whether or not knights exist. If a government has something called a "knighthood", then they exist, full stop.
    - droithomme 7y ago
      How many muslims and jews has he brutally murdered based only on their beliefs? If it's none he's not a very good Knight, is he? He's not a real Knight because he's not a cruel and depraved psychopath working for the Royal Government to exterminate hated minorities in the pursuit of white supremacy. That he feels hey OK associating himself and claiming as his own identity the historical racist abomination of knighthood though is exceptionally problematic. Something not right in the head.

thunderbong 7y ago

More enlightened conversation seems to be happening on this thread - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21624316#21625154 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21624316#21625154