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> YouTube Premium is literally the service HN wants: honest payment to support a Google service costs and creators publishing on it Except that's not what it i

> YouTube Premium is literally the service HN wants: honest payment to support a Google service costs and creators publishing on it Except that's not what it is. They've bundled Ad Free with YouTube Music and YouTube Originals, which I personally have no interest in. How much of that ridiculous price is going to the production of that original content and music licensing fees? $15 a month is a big ask when I see zero value in 2/3 of the offer. Bundling is what is driving cord cutting and piracy. People don't want to subsidize crap they don't want and didn't ask for. \* I would probably think differently if I was a YouTube Red or Music subscriber and they gave me access to Ad Free and Originals as bonus for my subscription fee but I'm not and don't want to be. Amazon Prime did something similar but by bundling Video and Music but I was already paying for Prime just for the free shipping so it was just extra.

bestnameever 7y ago
> Amazon Prime did something similar but by bundling Video and Music but I was already paying for Prime just for the free shipping so it was just extra. This is an interesting statement. Users are paying for Amazon Prime Video and Music one way or the other. I'd happily pay $79.00 instead of the current $120.00 a year for Amazon Prime without the Video and Music.
- cptskippy 7y ago
  My usage of Prime has shifted pretty heavily. I no longer order much from Amazon however we watch as much Prime Video as we do Netflix and I use Prime Music regularly at home, work, and in one of our cars. I would pay $6 a month for either music or video so $120 a year is fine with me. The free shipping and discounts at Whole Foods are now the bonus.
lonelappde 7y ago
Why do you care how they spend your fare? You should care if you are getting a fair value for your fare.
- cptskippy 7y ago
  > Why do you care how they spend your fare? Because I want to ensure the content creators I watch are supported, not just Youtube and the content creators it wants to support. > You should care if you are getting a fair value for your fare. As I said, I don't think it's a fair value for how I use it.
  - chongli 7y ago
    As I said, I don't think it's a fair value for how I use it. Do your preferred channels have Patreon? If so, then perhaps it would be a better use of your money to cancel YouTube premium and instead give the money directly to those creators.
    - cptskippy 7y ago
      I never said I had Premium. I said I didn't think it was a good value.

bestnameever 7y ago

> Amazon Prime did something similar but by bundling Video and Music but I was already paying for Prime just for the free shipping so it was just extra. This is an interesting statement. Users are paying for Amazon Prime Video and Music one way or the other. I'd happily pay $79.00 instead of the current $120.00 a year for Amazon Prime without the Video and Music.

cptskippy 7y ago
My usage of Prime has shifted pretty heavily. I no longer order much from Amazon however we watch as much Prime Video as we do Netflix and I use Prime Music regularly at home, work, and in one of our cars. I would pay $6 a month for either music or video so $120 a year is fine with me. The free shipping and discounts at Whole Foods are now the bonus.

lonelappde 7y ago

Why do you care how they spend your fare? You should care if you are getting a fair value for your fare.

cptskippy 7y ago
> Why do you care how they spend your fare? Because I want to ensure the content creators I watch are supported, not just Youtube and the content creators it wants to support. > You should care if you are getting a fair value for your fare. As I said, I don't think it's a fair value for how I use it.
- chongli 7y ago
  As I said, I don't think it's a fair value for how I use it. Do your preferred channels have Patreon? If so, then perhaps it would be a better use of your money to cancel YouTube premium and instead give the money directly to those creators.
  - cptskippy 7y ago
    I never said I had Premium. I said I didn't think it was a good value.