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The skill sets needed for the three big cloud providers are very different. At a high level it seems the same... VMs, VPC, Firewalls etc. but they all are confi

by auspex 7y ago

The skill sets needed for the three big cloud providers are very different. At a high level it seems the same... VMs, VPC, Firewalls etc. but they all are configured and managed differently on each platform. You need the experience as an AWS, GCP or Azure expert.

_bxg1 7y ago
Then it's disturbing that they're so non-standardized. I personally wouldn't want to spend a bunch of time becoming an expert in a skill that only applies to one company's physical servers.
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  Why would they standardise? They see their way of doing things as their competitive advantage - they each think their approach is better. Maybe you don’t understand how much people spend on these services? If you’re spending a million dollars a month on AWS then it pays to have a few people who focus on AWS full time and know it intimately. I really don’t think you need to let yourself get disturbed by this.
- GhettoMaestro 7y ago
  Lol. Are you new to technology or something?
  - dang 7y ago
    If you keep breaking the site guidelines, we're going to have to ban you. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - GhettoMaestro 7y ago
      You know what? Fuck it. Ban me. If you really think the above comment is egregious, fuck you. Dumb motherfucker.
      - dang 7y ago
        I don't want to ban you! I'd rather try to persuade you to use the site as intended. It's in your interest to do so, because if HN becomes a flamewar wreck, it won't remain a good place to discover new things, or read interesting articles, or whatever else it's good for.
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- jpalomaki 7y ago
  If we can learn anything from history, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the standardization. Just look at situation on the operating system side. Different flavors of Unix, VMS, z/OS, Windows. Sure there are concepts that apply to all of them, but if you want to be an expert you really need to go deep on the vendor specific things.
  - wyclif 7y ago
    Anecdotal: my cousin is a sysadmin and he recently took a certification class for z/OS. He says it was probably the best career-enhancing step he's ever made.
- thejigisup 7y ago
  the implementation details are different but the concepts don't change across the cloud providers. serverless compute is serverless compute. object storage is object storage. a vm is a vm.
james_s_tayler 7y ago
Not sure I buy it entirely. I've found that once you become an expert in a particular vendors technology to the point you have a reasonably complete mental model on how it works and how to solve all kinds of problems with it and the specific solutions tailored to specifc problems, then learning another vendors specific technology comes at deep, deep, discount. Tbh if you are an expert in X and I need you for Y and Y is analogous to X and there is time allowed for ramp up, then it's all the same to me.

by auspex 7y ago

_bxg1 7y ago

Then it's disturbing that they're so non-standardized. I personally wouldn't want to spend a bunch of time becoming an expert in a skill that only applies to one company's physical servers.

chrisseaton 7y ago
Why would they standardise? They see their way of doing things as their competitive advantage - they each think their approach is better. Maybe you don’t understand how much people spend on these services? If you’re spending a million dollars a month on AWS then it pays to have a few people who focus on AWS full time and know it intimately. I really don’t think you need to let yourself get disturbed by this.
GhettoMaestro 7y ago
Lol. Are you new to technology or something?
- dang 7y ago
  If you keep breaking the site guidelines, we're going to have to ban you. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - GhettoMaestro 7y ago
    You know what? Fuck it. Ban me. If you really think the above comment is egregious, fuck you. Dumb motherfucker.
    - dang 7y ago
      I don't want to ban you! I'd rather try to persuade you to use the site as intended. It's in your interest to do so, because if HN becomes a flamewar wreck, it won't remain a good place to discover new things, or read interesting articles, or whatever else it's good for.
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jpalomaki 7y ago
If we can learn anything from history, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the standardization. Just look at situation on the operating system side. Different flavors of Unix, VMS, z/OS, Windows. Sure there are concepts that apply to all of them, but if you want to be an expert you really need to go deep on the vendor specific things.
- wyclif 7y ago
  Anecdotal: my cousin is a sysadmin and he recently took a certification class for z/OS. He says it was probably the best career-enhancing step he's ever made.
thejigisup 7y ago
the implementation details are different but the concepts don't change across the cloud providers. serverless compute is serverless compute. object storage is object storage. a vm is a vm.

james_s_tayler 7y ago

Not sure I buy it entirely. I've found that once you become an expert in a particular vendors technology to the point you have a reasonably complete mental model on how it works and how to solve all kinds of problems with it and the specific solutions tailored to specifc problems, then learning another vendors specific technology comes at deep, deep, discount. Tbh if you are an expert in X and I need you for Y and Y is analogous to X and there is time allowed for ramp up, then it's all the same to me.