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Python in 2019 Sounds Like an Unprofessional Garage Team Band

15 points by sonkol 7y ago

zelly 7y ago
Maybe before trying to write (much less criticize) Python code you should learn how access control works on operating systems. Right click "Run as Administrator"
- xnyan 7y ago
  This is fundamentally mistaken advice, not because it’s necessarily it’s wrong to run python modules in the administrator context (although you probably don’t need to) but it is always a bad idea to run command with root/administrator privileges without understanding why you are doing so and why root privs are needed. If you don’t need global system access to these modules, appending —-user to pip will install in the user context, no elevated privs needed.
  - rini17 7y ago
    Why isn't it the default? According to the superuser link, in the previous version it worked by default without privileged access.
- sonkol 7y ago
  I obviously run pip as administrator... before replying you should try it yourself.
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astrodust 7y ago
WSL could have avoided all of this. Windows has never, ever been a friendly place to install programming languages of any kind. With WSL I've been able to use Windows for actual development. Want Node? Got it. Python? Done. How Windows has never come up with something as slick as apt baffles me. That shouldn't be hard! It used to be a good day to wrangle it into submission, with all sorts of ridiculous things like restarting or logging out/logging in depending on the package in question.
- JPKab 7y ago
  Anaconda would have avoided this. It's a breeze to install on Windows. The Windows answer to apt is chocolatey, BTW. FYI, Windows 10 is actually pretty easy to deal with. The primary issue I see these days is around certain numerical libraries not building unless user has CPP compiler installed.
  - astrodust 7y ago
    Windows 10 + WSL is a dramatic improvement over the experience on Windows 8 and earlier, but it just goes to show how good things could have been all along if Microsoft had ever committed to making a Windows package manager.
4gotunameagain 7y ago
>I want to blame the Python foundation for destroying this precious time Oh no, my probably unique setup gives me an error on pip. My precious time is destroyed. What a sh-tpost.
- testrun 7y ago
  I cannot agree more.
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lainproliant 7y ago
This is a joke post, right?...
machawinka 7y ago
Was this HNed to bully the author?

15 points by sonkol 7y ago

Maybe before trying to write (much less criticize) Python code you should learn how access control works on operating systems. Right click "Run as Administrator"

xnyan 7y ago
This is fundamentally mistaken advice, not because it’s necessarily it’s wrong to run python modules in the administrator context (although you probably don’t need to) but it is always a bad idea to run command with root/administrator privileges without understanding why you are doing so and why root privs are needed. If you don’t need global system access to these modules, appending —-user to pip will install in the user context, no elevated privs needed.
- rini17 7y ago
  Why isn't it the default? According to the superuser link, in the previous version it worked by default without privileged access.
sonkol 7y ago
I obviously run pip as administrator... before replying you should try it yourself.

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astrodust 7y ago

WSL could have avoided all of this. Windows has never, ever been a friendly place to install programming languages of any kind. With WSL I've been able to use Windows for actual development. Want Node? Got it. Python? Done. How Windows has never come up with something as slick as apt baffles me. That shouldn't be hard! It used to be a good day to wrangle it into submission, with all sorts of ridiculous things like restarting or logging out/logging in depending on the package in question.

JPKab 7y ago
Anaconda would have avoided this. It's a breeze to install on Windows. The Windows answer to apt is chocolatey, BTW. FYI, Windows 10 is actually pretty easy to deal with. The primary issue I see these days is around certain numerical libraries not building unless user has CPP compiler installed.
- astrodust 7y ago
  Windows 10 + WSL is a dramatic improvement over the experience on Windows 8 and earlier, but it just goes to show how good things could have been all along if Microsoft had ever committed to making a Windows package manager.

4gotunameagain 7y ago

>I want to blame the Python foundation for destroying this precious time Oh no, my probably unique setup gives me an error on pip. My precious time is destroyed. What a sh-tpost.

testrun 7y ago
I cannot agree more.

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lainproliant 7y ago

This is a joke post, right?...

machawinka 7y ago

Was this HNed to bully the author?