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There's no need for China to officially ask Apple for backdoors when the Party can force citizens and tourists to install their app with full access granted[0],

by yyyk 7y ago

There's no need for China to officially ask Apple for backdoors when the Party can force citizens and tourists to install their app with full access granted[0], and can get Apple to store the keys in China[1] while working with local Chinese state-owned 'partners'[2] which do the Party's bidding without even needing to go through Apple. [0] https://www.hongkongfp.com/2017/07/22/web-cleansing-chinas-xinjiang-residents-forced-install-surveillance-apps-mobile-phones/ https://www.hongkongfp.com/2017/07/22/web-cleansing-chinas-x... https://www.businessinsider.com/china-forces-tourists-install-malware-phone-scanning-app-xianjiang-border-2019-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/china-forces-tourists-instal... [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/24/apple-moves-to-store-icloud-keys-in-china-raising-human-rights-fears.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/24/apple-moves-to-store-icloud-... [2] https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/07/18/chinese-icloud-data-moved-to-servers-operated-by-state-owned-telco https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/07/18/chinese-icloud-da...

Despegar 7y ago
The first thing is only possible on Android, not iOS. As far as the iCloud keys, Apple insists that they maintain control of them. And at the end of the day, anyone can just decide to disable iCloud backups and they won't have to worry about it. >Originally, iCloud data was stored on Apple-controlled servers, with the Cupertino company holding the encryption keys. Apple announced a year ago that this would change to comply with new laws in China, and that data for Chinese iCloud accounts would be moved to a server run by Guizhou-Cloud Big Data (GCBD), a company owned by the provincial government. >However, I have spoken to Apple today, who confirmed that it still holds the encryption keys, and states categorically that they have not been made available to either GCBD or China Telecom. https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/18/chinese-icloud-data-china-telecom/ https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/18/chinese-icloud-data-china-tel...

by yyyk 7y ago

Despegar 7y ago

The first thing is only possible on Android, not iOS. As far as the iCloud keys, Apple insists that they maintain control of them. And at the end of the day, anyone can just decide to disable iCloud backups and they won't have to worry about it. >Originally, iCloud data was stored on Apple-controlled servers, with the Cupertino company holding the encryption keys. Apple announced a year ago that this would change to comply with new laws in China, and that data for Chinese iCloud accounts would be moved to a server run by Guizhou-Cloud Big Data (GCBD), a company owned by the provincial government. >However, I have spoken to Apple today, who confirmed that it still holds the encryption keys, and states categorically that they have not been made available to either GCBD or China Telecom. https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/18/chinese-icloud-data-china-telecom/ https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/18/chinese-icloud-data-china-tel...