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Why are businesses so aggressive about wanting you to download their app?

I've been using reddit and quora web interface for years with no issues. Nowdays they both seem super aggressive about wanting me to download their apps. Dark patterns.. like Im given a choice in a pop up menu but both answers lead to downloading the app, or waiting until you click on a link and then interrupting your flow to ask about the app...before you are forwarded. I've downloaded the apps and I they offered nothing new above what a modern website couldn't offer. Burger King and Supercuts even have 'apps' for some reason. Just curious what value an app has that makes businesses so desparate and hungry for you to download their apps when modern web technology has just as much power these days?

ceejayoz 7y ago
They're likely being judged on an app adoption / time spent metric.
a3n 7y ago
They offer far more than a modern website: insight into what you do with your phone, where and when. I suppose there's also a slight barrier to going offsite if you're in an app, but really, it's the data, and monetization of that data. Clue: did you pay for the app? No? You're the app's product.
- muzani 7y ago
  It seems like websites do this much better. We're no longer in the era that you can just harvest data from a phone, both Android and iOS clamp down on this.
lazyjones 7y ago
You can't easily block tracking and ads in apps. Plus, they get 'real estate' on your device, so you will stumble on it / see the brand more often.
- nickthemagicman 7y ago
  Aha that makes alot of sense! They have complete control of your experience.
muzani 7y ago
Apps are good for repeat actions. Repeat actions are good for retention. Having a Burger King app is likely better for customer retention than a loyalty card.
quickthrower2 7y ago
Probably there is an OKR metric tracking “engagement”.
withinboredom 7y ago
From my limited experience at a few companies that did something similar to what you mentioned: 1: The CEO gets a report that shows people using the app are more engaged and spend more time. They are “good” customers. The ones that don’t aren’t as engaged or spend less time. They got this report as part of a ROI in building the app. 2: The CEO thinks everyone should be pushed to the app so they’re more engaged and spend more time with the product. Replace CEO with your favorite decision maker if necessary. Never mind that the people using the app were probably the most engaged users before the app existed or by pushing the app onto users, you make it harder to allow users to get more engaged.
QueensGambit 7y ago
Engagement numbers of app are usually 4x its website counterpart. By default, app has features that increase engagement such as: - push notification to bring back idle users - icon in user's home screen for brand recall - faster response time due to native UI - full screen mode that avoid browser tab switching But, engaged users are the one who download the app. So, it is not clear if app is the cause for engagement or effect of users being more engaged. In any case, the numbers make businesses to push their app more aggressively.
mrfusion 7y ago
Here’s the relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1174/ https://xkcd.com/1174/
kazinator 7y ago
It's because everyone is doing it, and they don't want to be left behind. "If the user doesn't download our app, he or she will probably get our competitor's app, and then we're foobared! Holy crap, we better push that app!"
caseyscottmckay 7y ago
Apps have more access to more of your device than browsers, thus, apps are able to harvest more data.

ceejayoz 7y ago

They're likely being judged on an app adoption / time spent metric.

a3n 7y ago

They offer far more than a modern website: insight into what you do with your phone, where and when. I suppose there's also a slight barrier to going offsite if you're in an app, but really, it's the data, and monetization of that data. Clue: did you pay for the app? No? You're the app's product.

muzani 7y ago
It seems like websites do this much better. We're no longer in the era that you can just harvest data from a phone, both Android and iOS clamp down on this.

lazyjones 7y ago

You can't easily block tracking and ads in apps. Plus, they get 'real estate' on your device, so you will stumble on it / see the brand more often.

nickthemagicman 7y ago
Aha that makes alot of sense! They have complete control of your experience.

muzani 7y ago

Apps are good for repeat actions. Repeat actions are good for retention. Having a Burger King app is likely better for customer retention than a loyalty card.

quickthrower2 7y ago

Probably there is an OKR metric tracking “engagement”.

withinboredom 7y ago

From my limited experience at a few companies that did something similar to what you mentioned: 1: The CEO gets a report that shows people using the app are more engaged and spend more time. They are “good” customers. The ones that don’t aren’t as engaged or spend less time. They got this report as part of a ROI in building the app. 2: The CEO thinks everyone should be pushed to the app so they’re more engaged and spend more time with the product. Replace CEO with your favorite decision maker if necessary. Never mind that the people using the app were probably the most engaged users before the app existed or by pushing the app onto users, you make it harder to allow users to get more engaged.

QueensGambit 7y ago

Engagement numbers of app are usually 4x its website counterpart. By default, app has features that increase engagement such as: - push notification to bring back idle users - icon in user's home screen for brand recall - faster response time due to native UI - full screen mode that avoid browser tab switching But, engaged users are the one who download the app. So, it is not clear if app is the cause for engagement or effect of users being more engaged. In any case, the numbers make businesses to push their app more aggressively.

mrfusion 7y ago

Here’s the relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1174/ https://xkcd.com/1174/

kazinator 7y ago

It's because everyone is doing it, and they don't want to be left behind. "If the user doesn't download our app, he or she will probably get our competitor's app, and then we're foobared! Holy crap, we better push that app!"

caseyscottmckay 7y ago

Apps have more access to more of your device than browsers, thus, apps are able to harvest more data.