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A more terse mission statement from a linked job posting: “Culdesac's mission is to build cities for people, not cars. We're the first post-car real estate dev

A more terse mission statement from a linked job posting: “Culdesac's mission is to build cities for people, not cars. We're the first post-car real estate developer, and our goal is to build the first car-free city in the US. We're starting with the first car-free neighborhood built from scratch - that's Culdesac Tempe, a 1000-person neighborhood that opens Fall 2020.” So, like an apartment building, but horizontal?

seltzered_ 7y ago
To get a rough comparison in context, a co-housing development in a suburban area (a mix of three-story flats, townhomes, and a common house) ranges from 9-44 households (so 50-80 peopl) over 2-4 acres arranged in a more cul-de-sac feel (buildings/etc center around a common walking area). So, my first take on this is like having ~10 cohousing communities + some businesses From another article: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/11/19/culdesac-tempe-apartment-complex-wont-offer-residential-parking/4191470002/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/11/19/... : "which will be on 16 acres near Apache Boulevard and River Road" ...okay, so roughly in line with what I was thinking, though even more dense. https://goo.gl/maps/yDu9Zt96GKAi4KfR8 https://goo.gl/maps/yDu9Zt96GKAi4KfR8 is the location. Judging from the satellite view it looks like it'll be spread across the four areas around that block (with some of the old existing structures getting torn down). If you've never visited Tempe, there's been a lot of recent new downtown development ~3 miles west of this location. "The project falls within one of Tempe's opportunity zones, which could allow investors to take advantage of federal tax breaks." ...Interesting, the deadline for these projects (i.e. for investors to fund them and get a capital gains deduction) to get funding into a QOF-registered LLC working in a Qualified Opportunity Zone is 12-31-2019 from my understanding, so that's why it's happening now. "An apartment development with no parking for its expected 1,000 residents..." This is where I'm a bit questioning on whether this will really be a place one wants to live in over the long run. It seems like solely a large distributed apartment complex rather than a community/neighborhood with stakeholdership.
- phnofive 7y ago
  Maybe a people mover or a monorail, since an elevator won’t be practical :)

seltzered_ 7y ago

To get a rough comparison in context, a co-housing development in a suburban area (a mix of three-story flats, townhomes, and a common house) ranges from 9-44 households (so 50-80 peopl) over 2-4 acres arranged in a more cul-de-sac feel (buildings/etc center around a common walking area). So, my first take on this is like having ~10 cohousing communities + some businesses From another article: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/11/19/culdesac-tempe-apartment-complex-wont-offer-residential-parking/4191470002/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/11/19/... : "which will be on 16 acres near Apache Boulevard and River Road" ...okay, so roughly in line with what I was thinking, though even more dense. https://goo.gl/maps/yDu9Zt96GKAi4KfR8 https://goo.gl/maps/yDu9Zt96GKAi4KfR8 is the location. Judging from the satellite view it looks like it'll be spread across the four areas around that block (with some of the old existing structures getting torn down). If you've never visited Tempe, there's been a lot of recent new downtown development ~3 miles west of this location. "The project falls within one of Tempe's opportunity zones, which could allow investors to take advantage of federal tax breaks." ...Interesting, the deadline for these projects (i.e. for investors to fund them and get a capital gains deduction) to get funding into a QOF-registered LLC working in a Qualified Opportunity Zone is 12-31-2019 from my understanding, so that's why it's happening now. "An apartment development with no parking for its expected 1,000 residents..." This is where I'm a bit questioning on whether this will really be a place one wants to live in over the long run. It seems like solely a large distributed apartment complex rather than a community/neighborhood with stakeholdership.

phnofive 7y ago
Maybe a people mover or a monorail, since an elevator won’t be practical :)